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There have been a ton of people that have left. the president often will set up a team of rivals. look at whats happening with trade policy now, for instance. you have like five or six principals who have totally -- wildly different views trying to negotiate trade policy with china. and the president really sets up his teams like that. and i think that he likes it. and i think its strategic in a lot of ways. i think its a place he feels comfortable because if he can control the chaos, sort of cr...

President who just sort of doesnt care about it, doesnt want to be engaged, and this is a consequence of that? >> well, i think the president likes chaos. i think he sets it up. we saw this dating back to the campaign. his campaign went through multiple campaign managers and weve seen that at the white house. there have been firings. there have been a ton of people that have left. the president often will set up a team of rivals. look at whats happening with trade policy now, for instance. you h...

Trade policy now, for instance. you have like five or six principals who have totally -- wildly different views trying to negotiate trade policy with china. and the president really sets up his teams like that. and i think that he likes it. and i think its strategic in a lot of ways. i think its a place he feels comfortable because if he can control the chaos, sort of create headlines, make things unpredictable just through a tweet, it really distracts from other things that are happening like t...

Nobody is going to be shoving santorum out of the ray he has to snake, a week, i can go play in alabama, mississippi, i got those kansas caucuses i might do well in, that is a christian conservative state in the republican primary there and then we could be looking at illinois, yet another one of those midwestern tests for romney where santorum has proven to be a little bit of a thorpe in romneys side. >> chuck, thank you. appreciate t we have got nbc correspondents at different campaign headqua...