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telling the truth. he has no shadow hanging over him. the uncertainty is gone. he has stepped up to the line and he has admitted what he did wrong, but he is now liberated to tell the truth. everything about donald trump that he knows. from this point on you're going to see liberated michael cohen speaking truth to power. >> and we will hear a lot more from cohen's lawyer who you just saw there, he is going to be joining "morning joe" later this morning. after four days of deliberations the jury in the fraud trial of paul manafort found president trump's former campaign chairman guilty on eight of the counts against him. the jury has unable to reach a unanimous verdict on the other ten counts manafort faced. his trial marked a critical first stage for robert mueller's investigation. pete williams has more. >> reporter: the jury found paul manafort guilty of intentionally dodging taxes on millions of dollars that he earned as a
political consultant for the former president of ukraine well before manafort served briefly as president trump's campaign chairman. prosecutors say he stashed the money in overseas banks and used it to indulge his expensive tastes in clothes, antiques and cars, by wiring money directly from those accounts to pay his bills, bypassing tax collectors from the irs. from 2010 through 2014 prosecutors said manafort earned more than $30 million but reported less than half of it as income. when the ukrainian money dried up prosecutors said manafort lied in applying for more than $20 million in loans from three banks to maintain his spending habits. the jury convicted of him in two of those bank fraud counts. in all manafort faced 18 criminal counts, the jury convicted him on eight of them but could not agree on the other ten. of those the judge declared a mistrial leaving the prosecutors free to charge them with him all over again. >> the prosecutors will be happy
that the eight counts of conviction were spread out among the different tranches of things that he was accused of so the prosecution will be able to argue at sentencing that the judge should consider everything. >> reporter: the conviction is a boost for robert mueller. manafort was the first person he charged presumably to force his cooperation in the meddling investigation. manafort's lawyer spoke only briefly, thanking the judge and jury for what they said was a fair trial. >> mr. manafort is disappointed of not getting acquit als all the way through or a complete hung jury on all counts. he is evaluating all of his options at this point. >> reporter: the judge hasn't set a sentencing date for paul manafort but he could face up to ten years in prison and next month he goes on trial all over again, this time in federal court in washington where he's charged with failing to register as a lobbyist for ukraine, witness tampering and financial fraud. frances. >> thanks to pete williams. one of the top republicans in the senate said it's up to
the president if he wants to pardon paul manafort. here is senator mitch mcconnell's deputy, majority whip john cornyn of texas speaking to reporters yesterday. >> would you have a problem if the president were to pardon manafort? >> if he was what? >> were to pardon manafort? >> that's above my pay grade. that's the president's choice, but i think -- i think i'd like to see the case run its course and i will let the courts do -- do their job. >> and in the house speaker paul ryan deflected on the guilty plea of the president's lawyer. a spokesperson told nbc news we are aware of mr. cohen's guilty plea to the serious charges. we will need more information than is currently available at this point. >> a lot to dive into. for that we want to bring in danny sivalis. great to have you with us because there's so much to get to on both fronts with this one-two punch. let's start with michael cohen here. what level of surprise was there
given that he made this agreement, this plea, without necessarily a cooperation nl agreement that we know of where he didn't need to implicate the president. >> my level of surprise on a ten scale is a one. it was a foregone -- >> ten being the most. >> this was a foregone conclusion in my mind inevitably michael cohen was going to plead. when you look at the potential sentencing guidelines in any economic crime with losses approaching a million or more, you are looking at a very, very high sentencing level. the only way to drag that sentencing range down is, first, acceptance of responsibility, you plead guilty, and, two, a 5k 1 motion, substantial assistance cooperation with prosecutors. i just want to stress the fact that there's no evidence that he's cooperating now doesn't mean that he's not cooperating behind the scenes and it doesn't mean that he might not cooperate in the future. you know, the federal rules allow for cooperation to happen
even after a defendant is sentenced. not the plea, after he's received his sentence. so there are many opportunities to cooperate and it may just be the case that the prosecutors are timing things for strategic reasons and high level three-dimensional chess that we can't even guess at right now. >> so then the question becomes what does this mean for president trump and his legal team? everybody is focused on michael cohen, what he may or may not be able to offer to implicate the kate but how does this change trump's legal strategy? >> the u.s. attorneys yesterday would not have given you an answer to that question but you can divine an answer from the rules that u.s. attorneys follow and it is a general rule in the u.s. attorney's manual that you don't name an uncharged third party. in fact, you don't even identify him or her with specificity. who are we kidding, him. you don't identify him with specificity so that he can be identified. so, in other words, you can't say senator so-and-so, but you
might say a member of congress. you don't do that as a u.s. attorney unless you have a really good reason or naming that person is essential to describing the crime. for example, bribing a member of congress is the example the manual gives. but for them to name -- to go into that level of specificity and to allow cohen to name him in that level of specificity really is telling. it means that there is something the government believes that there is something more there against that third party and we all know who the third party is. >> and whether or not bob mueller takes that with his investigation we'll see, especially according to cohen's attorney. paul manafort, the time that we have, we will delve into that. surprised that we have not full agreement from here when it comes to all the charges? >> not surprising at all because these charges are not your garden variety federal charges, they are complex, they involve a lot of paper, they involve a difficult interpretation of
federal law, however, i am not surprised that he was convicted on the tax charges. tax perjury is a very easy charge to make out. you essentially ask when he signed -- when he tested to the part about perjury that we all do with our tax forms, was that false. so that's an easier charge to make. the f bar charges maybe the jurors struggled with that, maybe one juror struggled with that, we don't know right now, but in any case like this these charges are in the substantial minority of federal charges brought every year. it's not something that regular jurors see, it's not even something regular attorneys see. >> now we have his next trial and then a pardon if that's even going to happen or possible. a lot to talk about at that point. we will check in with you a little later. and house speaker paul ryan has stripped california congressman duncan hunter of his committee assignments, this following news that hunter and his wife have been indicted. the couple is accused of converting more than a quarter of a million dollars in campaign funds to pay for personal expenses. according to the indictment the
hunters used campaign funds for ski trips, hotel stays and european vacations. they golfed, they bought makeup, they paid for airline tickets for friends and relatives and invested in tequila shots and gourmet steaks. the indictment alleges incident after incident in which they spent campaign money on personal outings and meals and told their campaign treasurer the expenses were legitimate including $1,900 spent sending a family member to a pittsburgh steelers game. both collins and hunter are now under indictment. the spokesperson for hunter said yesterday that the congressman believes this action is purely politically motivated. hunter, a republican, is up for reelection in november. california secretary of state says there is no process to remove his name from the ballot and the state does not allow write in candidates, guys. >> what an interesting development. very busy political and legal
there on many fronts. still ahead, a tragic ending to the search for a missing university of iowa student, an undocumented i'm grant has now been charged with the murder of mollie tibbetts. president trump says fake news is prerchable to censorship as facebook it removes hundreds of fake accounts tied to russia. as king midas, here at midas, you will too. and your oil change comes with a tire rotation as well.
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found her body and a suspect is in custody charged with first degree murder. >> the identity has not been confirmed, however, we believe it to be the body of mollie tibbetts. >> reporter: authorities arrested 24-year-old cristhian bahena rivera an undocumented immigrant whom they say has been in the country as long as seven years. the crucial break, surveillance video showing mollie the day she disappeared in a car belonging to mr. rivera. >> we first approached mr. rivera yesterday. >> reporter: authorities say rivera told them as he drove he saw mollie running, approached the car. >> he ran alongside or behind her and at one point he tells us that mollie grabbed ahold of her phone and said you need to leave me alone, i'm going to call the police, then she took off running. >> reporter: rivera told officials he ran after her and doesn't remember what happened next, though later he said he noticed mollie's headphones in his lap and realized he had put her in a trunk. he led authorities to a body in
a cornfield. for weeks her family and friends held out hope she was still ali alive. >> she's loveable, fun to have around as a friend. >> to know mollie is to love mollie. >> every single day, just as hopeful as from day one as i am until now. if you are not that, then you're not going to make it through any of this. >> reporter: officials have fielded more than 4,000 tips and that the investigation was emotionally difficult. >> we just spoke with the family and i told them that they raised a great daughter. she was a phenomenal individual and so we are saddened for the family. >> our thanks to ron mott for that report. you're right, it was absolutely heart breaking to see the details of this person and when you hear the sound bites from the people that talked about her you can clearly tell how much love she had in her and how much love she gave to the people. >> and heart breaking for the family. they thought that she would be found alive. >> there was a sense of optimism. facebook has taken down more than 600 fake pages, groups and accounts organized by russia and
iran that targeted hundreds of thousands of followers worldwide as part of separate disinformation campaigns. the iranian effort dates back to 2011 and had ties to state media operations in that country facebook said. the new revelations frustrated some members of congress who have urged both the trump administration and the tech industry to take more decisive steps to thwart nations from spreading disinformation online. president trump spoke on cyber deck writ during a campaign rally yesterday, saying he preferred fake news to censorship. >> i would rather have fake news, it's true, than have anybody, including liberals, socialists, anything, than have anybody stopped and secensored. it can turn around and be them next. >> and on the heels of facebook's revelations twitter also said they had removed 284
accounts for engaging in coordinated manipulation. twitter said the accounts also appeared to originate from iran. facebook, twitter and google are expected to testify at a hearing at the senate in september. the fifth. it is expected to focus on foreign interference in u.s. politics and social media. still ahead, president trump once again slams the nfl at a rally last night in west virginia and you might not want to tell mike barnicle this, but the tribe keeps up their winning ways over the red sox. we will have all the details next in sports.
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prior to its kickoff in its broadcast. turning to major league baseball where the potential american league playoff showcase between the indians and red sox continues. cleveland rookie shane bieber didn't give up a hit until the seventh inning. in the help of a pair of stellar grabs by greg allen along with cabrera's third homer in as many games the indians beat the red sox. final score 6-3. we go to detroit, a demonstration of some incredible power from cubs slugger anthony rizzo who hits a solo shot out to right while down on one knee, falling over in the batter's box before making his home run trot there. that is power. but that's the only run that chicago can muster. the tigers win this one 2-1. >> man. >> when you see his lose his balance and fall forward you wouldn't think it was going to have the distance but he definitely crushed it. >> yankees won last night. some injuries but closing the
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day for the presidency since watergate. on one side a long time confidant bleeds guilty, on the other a former campaign chair found guilty by a jury. both men now convicted felons. first the case that legal experts say could pose the greatest threat to the president, the guilty plea of his former lawyer and fixer michael cohen. among the eight counts against him are two for campaign finance violations by directly implicate donald trump. hallie jackson has more. >> reporter: that bombshell plea deal means the man who used to fix donald trump's problems has now become one for the president. michael cohen implicating his former boss after pleading guilty to eight felony charges of tax fraud, bank fraud and notably campaign finance violations. paying out hush money, telling a judge he broke the law because a candidate told him to. he doesn't name the person, but he only worked for one, donald trump. >> he worked to pay money to
silence two women who had information that he believed would be detrimental to the 2016 campaign and to the candidate and the campaign. >> reporter: that includes $130,000 payment cohen made just days before the election to porn star stormy daniels to keep her quiet about an alleged affair with the president which he denies. michael avenatti represents daniels. >> she feels very vindicated. she believes that she has fought the good fight and she's going to continue to fight the good fight. >> reporter: the president has said he didn't know about the payment at the time. >> did you know about the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels? >> no. >> reporter: the president's attorney rudy giuliani tells nbc news late tonight there is no allegation of any wrongdoing against the president in the government's charges against mr. cohen. it is clear that as the prosecutor noted, mr. cohen's actions reflect a pattern of lies and dishonesty over a significant period of time. the president himself has suggested he's not concerned with what cohen might say. >> i just want to know if you're worried if he's going to
cooperate. >> no, i'm not because i did nothing wrong. >> reporter: cohen will not have to go to trial, but faces three and a half to five years in prison. he will be sentenced in december. >> he can go to jail for a number of years and so he still has an incentive to help the government, but if he wants to avoid jail, the more information the more truthful information he provides, the better off he will be. >> reporter: it's a stunning development for two men whose relationship dates back a decade. cohen once memorable blee said he would take a bullet for the president, but this summer signs of a split when cohen declared his family and country come first. now a flip for a former loyalist and perhaps to the president a betrayal. >> if he's still your friend -- >> i always liked michael cohen. i haven't spoken to michael in a long time. >> is he still your lawyer. >> no, he is not my lawyer. >> your personal lawyer. >> but i always liked michael. >> thanks to hallie jackson for that report. we should mention that cohen's lawyer lanny davis, will join "morning joe" later this morning. special counsel robert mueller has landed a victory as part of his russia probe after
the jury in paul manafort's fraud trial found him guilty on eight of the charges he was facing. manafort who briefly served as the chairman of donald trump's presidential campaign was convicted of five counts of tax fraud, one count of failure to file a report of foreign bank and financial accounts and two counts of bank fraud. the judge declared a mistrial on ten of the other charges manafort faced after the jury could not reach a unanimous verdict on them. the charges at the center of this trial weren't directly related to russia's interference in the 2016 election. in fact, they predate his involvement in the trump campaign. when the verdict was read manafort looked straight ahead offering no reaction as he was led out of the room he whispered into the ear of one of his defense lawyers and nodded at his wife who was sitting in the front row of the courtroom. speaking after the verdict manafort's lead attorney said his client is now evaluating his options. >> mr. manafort is disappointed of not getting acquittals all the way through or a complete
hung jury on all counts, however, he would like to thank judge ellis for granting him a fair trial, thank the jury for their very long and hard fought deliberations. he is evaluating all of his options at this point. >> now, manafort faces the possibility of seven to nine years in prison. prosecutors have until next wednesday to decide what they will do about the ten mistrial charges. manafort also faces another trial on related charges next month in washington, d.c. special counsel robert mueller has asked to postpone the sentencing hearing for president trump's former national security adviser michael flynn. the joint filing yesterday by mueller's team and flynn's defense both parties asked for the sentencing timeline to be pushed back to september 17th. the court had asked for an update by this friday. the special counsel's office writing, quote, due to the status of the investigation the special counsel's office does not believe that this matter is ready to be scheduled for a sentencing hearing at this time.
the judge accepted the request last night. mueller's team had previously asked for a delay in sentencing back in july. flynn pleaded guilty in december to lying to federal investigators and has been cooperating with the special counsel since then. joining us here on set danny cevallos. bob mueller asking another delay for flynn's sentencing. the delay, does it tell us what role michael flynn is playing in the bob mueller investigation? why possibly the delay? >> typically prosecutors will delay a sentencing date in order to do one of two things, continue to cooperate with a cooperating witness or their investigation into all the other big fish is still ongoing and so they need that cooperating witness, they don't want to sentence him because after he's sentenced his obligations may be completed. there may be less to offer him, although he can cooperate after
sentencing in order to organize everything and tie everything up into a nice neat bow. prosecutors will simply delay the sentencing as long as they need to in order to secure the level of cooperation that they want from this particular cooperating witness. >> you just mentioned big fish. do one of those big fish be michael cohen, especially when you have lanny davis on with rachel maddow saying he might have some information about the president here that could include topics of crime, computer crime of hacking, whether or not the president knew ahead of time about the crime or even cheered it on, could that be it? >> that was a mind blowing revelation to me because that was the first inkling or first suggestion that the computer hacking might be part of the bundle of things that donald trump is being implicated in or not too subtly implicated in as he was yesterday in court. when lanny davis said that that was the first time any of us yesterday really hearth computer hacking. i think many jaws dropped and
people said, i've got campaign finance, bank fraud, all the other things, but the hacking -- because the hacking suggests, although it's not conclusive, that it might involve interference in the campaign or even russia collusion. >> but this can also factor in when it comes to a cooperating agreement down the line. when it comes to michael cohen. >> absolutely. you mean for michael flynn or michael cohen? >> michael cohen. >> for michael cohen. michael cohen, yes. cooperation is an ongoing evaluation. just because we didn't see any evidence of a cooperation agreement it's very common. in my cases you don't want to mention a cooperation agreement in open court unless you absolutely have to. there are two major reasons why, number one, you could compromise an ongoing investigation but number two your clients could be at risk if people out there, bad actors, know that he is cooperating. as they say, unfortunately, snitches get stitches. that's a saying that's thrown around the courthouses for a
reason. it's dangerous to be a snitch. it's not uncommon even at sentencing to go to sidebar and say, hey, judge, we have a motion here which is a signal that there's cooperation, then go back in open court and proceed with sentencing. >> danny cevallos, i am sure it is going to be another busy day for you. >> we haven't even talked about manafort yet. >> i will save that for later. still ahead, the white house economic adviser larry kudlow speaking out over hosting the publisher of a white nationalist website at his birthday celebration. the explanation he's offering over his guest. bill karins is back with a check on the forecast as hawaii braces for a rare and powerful hurricane. braces for a rare and powerful (vo) this is not a video game.
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birthday party last weekend. peter brimlow found td v dare.com in 1999. the "washington post" reports he and kudlow have been friends for nearly 40 years. the website promotes white identity politics through a contributor network that the southern poverty law center has described at white supremacists, anti-semites and radicals on the right. the party was held one day after a white house speech writer was dismissed amid reports that he had spoken at a white nationalist conference in 2016. in a statement provided to cnbc where he had worked as a contributor for many years kudlow says he was disappointed and saddened to learn of imlow's views and if i had known any of that i wouldn't have invited him. i don't agree with any of that. let's get a check on your weather now. bill, hurricane lane now a
category 5. >> what a storm. hawaii has never had a storm in our recorded history that we know of this strong near the hawaiian islands. you have to go back to 1992, a billion dollar disaster, 145 mile per hour winds at landfall, that was the last time hawaii has come close to anything like this before. they are rushing to make the last minute preparations as they get prepared for what could be one of the worst storms they have had in their recorded history. i mean, this is a category 5 and it's going to come within 100 miles of the big island. as it weakens it could come close to honolulu and oahu. you're worried about flooding, that's the biggest concern with this storm. right now it's monster, 160 mile per hour winds, 350 miles away now from the big island. the forecast path, this is a new update just out, does take the core of it just about 100 miles offshore, about maybe 70 miles from maui and maybe about 50
miles from oahu. the winds are not the concern with this, the biggest tlit is a slow moving storm with extreme rainfall. they are saying that the peak amounts could end up over two feet of rain in the hawaiian islands. this red is ten inches, that's the big island. as we go through maui and oahu, everyone could easily get up to a foot, highest totals could be up to two feet of rain, extreme flooding, mudslides, rock slides, things that are typically a trickle will turn into a raging river. we will keep monitoring that. could be a billion dollar weather disaster in hawaii. otherwise some showers racing through the northeast. those will exit for a decent afternoon in the mid-atlantic. el of the country no problems at all. all eyes will be on the hawaiian islands over the next 48 hours. still ahead, president trump not talking about the legal troubles of michael cohen and paul manafort during his rally last night. >> up next, we will go to nbc's
cal perry in london on the president's decision to instead attack america's allies. and how yesterday's courtroom dam ma had with his associates are being received overseas. so you have, your headphones, chair, new laptop, 24/7 tech support. yep, thanks guys.
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simple, easy, awesome. in many cultures, young men would stay with their families until their 40's. all the leaders of nato, and they weren't paying their bills, they were delinquent. i said to europe, i said, folks, nato is better for you than it is for us. i said, yes, i will leave you if you don't pay your bills.
i mean, our allies treatise worse than our enemies. believe it. i have people coming to me, some people in congress, sir, can you get this deal done immediately? i said, it doesn't work that way. i don't want to go too fast. the deal is not going to be any good if we do that. we have to take time. it has to jest ate, right? the word gestate. it's like when you're cooking a chicken. turkey for thanksgiving. my mother would say, oh, eight hours. i said, eight hours? she made the greatest turkey i have ever had. takes time. takes time. with that being said we're moving so fast nobody can even believe it. >> you have to love the chain of thought that goes from talking about trade and tariffs to his mother's turkey and how you have to let it marinate and take time to cook. >> that was the president. that was the president once again attacking american allies and nato while making that connection with his mom's homemade cooking, a turkey like no other apparently.
that was at his rally in west virginia, comparing his view of international diplomatic relations to how great his mom's cooking is. >> it comes as we are getting new reaction from overseas to the michael cohen guilty plea and the paul manafort verdict. for that we want to go live to london to somebody who knows a thing or two about cooking turkeys, nbc news international correspondent -- it was too easy, cal. it was too easy. let's talk about the reaction overseas to all of the legal woes that are unfolding here. has it been muted or how are you seeing it play out? >> it's a tsunami. so the bbc, right, the self declared last bastion of all things that protects foreign news led today donald trump the top two stories, the third story was a million people displaced by indian flooding. that i was go us an idea how donald trump is blocking out all foreign news. let's go through the british broadcasters. itn, quote, trump directed payment of hush money to influence election. the daily mail got everything
into one headline, say it with me, trump's loyal to reveal how president con fired to interrupt investigation and new russia's involvement and hush ex-campaign chief -- >> take a breather. >> that's it, man. into one headline. all the british broadcasters and the people around the world are talking about. viewing this as a turning point in the trump administration. maybe a point at which trump cannot go back from. here at the foreign deck surrendering all foreign news from here. that's it. >> what else could the headlines be on any other day? >> india flooding, 1 million displaced. idlib in syria about to be bombed. iraq, syria, currency in india. reunifications. global warming. i have the baltimore orioles here. ayman, you wanted to talk about
the red wings. >> and also didn't talk about the earthquake. 7.0 magnitude earthquake. absolutely right. something about the trump presidency sucking the oxygen from our ability to cover other important stories. >> the "daily telegraph" has an explainer an the sfro eation on. what happens if president trump is impeached and who will be the next president. what happens if this goes all the way. >> appreciate the insight. >> that, glad we got the headlines in there, too. and still to come a look at this morning's "one big thing" with axios. and michael cohen starts a plea deal with federal prosecutors. lanny davis will discuss the information he has cohen has that should be of interest to robert mueller. plus more on the conviction
of trump's campaign manager paul manafort. former fbi special agent clint watts, former assistant attorney for the southern district of new york daniel goldman and law professor jonathan turley all help break down what's next following a very dark day for the trump presidency. "morning joe," everyone, just moments away. so you have, your headphones, chair, new laptop, 24/7 tech support. yep, thanks guys. i think he might need some support. yes.
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looking for this, but we've talked a lot how they could take the house. and look for impeachment records being written on day one. and yesterday from federal court michael cohen saying the president directed him to participate in a federal crime, gervin everything that happened yesterday, all of the moving pieces, what are insiders telling you as axios about the president's mind-set following specifically michael cohen's guilty plea? >> from the mood inside the white house, from folks we spoke to who work in the trump administration, more buoyant have taken on a dark and somber tone. a historian referred to the broader sensitive incident as an inflection point, drawing watergate parallels. interesting, not a good sense of president trump's mood himself. didn't talk about it very much on his way to west virginia,
didn't mention it in the rally. we saw no tweets since i put my phone down. interesting today what i'll look forward to. the public reaction the president or top aides have to the revelations yesterday. >> as we've seen before, too big for any other distraction that may come into play in? a broader sense, really, a bad day for the president. overall for the presidency, what kind of shift does this one-two punch we saw yesterday give to the political landscape there? >> a huge deal. talk about the "one big thing." talking realistically about the things that could be used for it impeachment. now the president is in federal court accused by his former lawyer of being implicated in a federal crime. easy for democrats to begin, possibly in control of congress right behind me in congress to draft articles of impeachment and house democrats take control become the majority party they
will have subpoena power from these committees, broad power. looking for these kinds of things. who knows what else they can dig it and use to hammer the president. >> a bit of a political bombshell yesterday, corruption indictment of republican congressman duncan hunter. what kind of worries does this create for the gop? >> right. the second house republican this month who's been indicted. both two very early supporters of president trump. house democrats already had plans in the november elections to make this a story about republicans being a party of corruption. continuing to hammer this. another negative element for house republicans facing long odds to hold on to the house. >> nicholas johnson. the two bill convicted felons equalling "one big thing" this morning. we'll read about it. sign up for their newsletter at signup.axios.com. that does it for us on this wednesday morning.
i'm ayman mohyeldin alongside yas money vossoughian. "morning joe" starts right now. >> i did nong wrong. you have to understand. this stuff would have come out a long time ago. i did nothing wrong. >> is michael cohen still your friend? >> i like michael. i haven't spoke ton him in a long time. >> is he your lawyer? >> no, he's not my lawyer. i always liked michael. >> and are you going to cooperate? >> are you going to let me talk. >> i just want to know if you're going to cooperate with federal investigators. >> i did nothing wrong. >> oh, he flipped. in june president trump said he wasn't worried at all that michael cohen would flip. he should have been. the president's former attorney admitted in court yesterday that donald trump personally directed him to buy the silence of two women whose claims of sexual affairs with the presidential candidate threatened to derail his white house ambitions and it
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all tried to convince her to look at the paper trail, we laid it out in front of her again and again and she still said she had reasonable doubt and that is the way the jury worked. we didn't want it to be hung so we tried for an extended period of time to convince her that in the end she held out and that is why we have 10 counts. >> is that where the note did not come from, performance in the note and said can you explain reasonable doubt? wasn't connected to that? >> it was. most of us did not want that question out there but one of the jurors did. we felt a little foolish sending it but that is the way the jury works.
deliberation requires we submit that question to the judge. >> judge ellis said this about the situation. i received criticism and threats. i can imagine they would too meaning of your names were released. if you told jurors their names would be public at the outset of this trial i might see some request to be excused and i think certainly i had no idea myself this case would arouse the kind of public interest. i think i said at the outset i understand why but even still it is a surprise. he kept your name sealed because he was worried about threats to his jurors. why are you speaking out? >> i don't feel a threat. i'm an american citizen. i feel i did my civic duty. i don't feel i need to hide behind anything. i'm not afraid at all. i thought the public, america needed to know how close this was and the evidence was overwhelming. we did not want him to begin to but he was and no one is above the law.
and there were four boxes of paper to look through. shannon: i know there was a question whether the various counts are connected to the evidence that was linked to that. do you feel there was a good job by the mueller team putting together what they wanted to get to? >> we didn't want that question out there either. when they gave us the box each folder had a number. when you look at your notes, and what was connected which charge it was easy to connect the dots. most of us had no problem with that. >> what was it like? was it heated? >> it was. crazily enough there were even tears. two of the jurors, one of the females that did finally change her vote to guilty came in one
day and say guilty and the next day say i felt pressure i want to change my vote. there was a lot of back and forth with that but finally, once again, we put those documents in front of her and she changed her vote to guilty again. the one holdout even after the instructions from the judge where he said you talking about it. give this another try that wasn't enough to move the one. you said you wanted him to be innocent, why? >> even his critics say he was brilliant at what he did. why wouldn't trump want them to help with the campaign. >> you are trump supported. >> very much so. >> what did you think about the charges being brought against him. you wanted to think he was innocent, did you think on the front end versus what you decided?
>> the charges were legitimate the prosecution tried to make the case about the russian collusion from the beginning of the judge shot them down on that, we didn't waste a bit of time with that shenanigan. >> that the president's name come up injury deliberation? was this the politicized in any way? >> it was just because in the evidence there were references to trump and to his son-in-law and the trump campaign, especially with the pay to play issue so it did come up. >> did you feel there were jurors who were either like yourself pro donald trump or anti-and that influence their reasoning? >> know, i don't. i think we all went in like we were supposed to and assumed he was innocent, we do due diligence, apply the evidence, our notes, the witnesses --
let's talk about the manafort team and the decision not to testify. did that influence you? >> it did. i understand why they didn't do it, he is presumed innocent and does not need to do that and the judge made that very clear that there is no requirement for him to do so. however based on what i saw, what i heard i think i would have liked to have heard more from the defense. they gave a very easy-going atmosphere to the whole thing, they objected to very little and appeared agreeable throughout it all. the cross-examination was very short. i think i expected a little more. >> rick gates was a business associate of paul manafort, he was a key to the prosecution and the defense seemed most of the
case was to discredit him, undermine and talk about him stealing from paul manafort, that he strike you as a witness? >> nervous. some of us had a problem accepting his testimony because he took the plea so we agreed to throw out his testimony and that the paperwork. shannon: did you find them to be credible? >> know. i think he would have done anything for himself. that is obvious. >> a key witness but he did not turn you. what about the tax preparer who was testifying under immunity. how critical was she to you? >> some of us thought she was a good witness. others did not.
i believe there. i think she felt very contrite about her involvement in that. i understand why she didn't but that didn't make it right. i think she was key to me because we saw the false documents and now we know how they got there. shannon: a lot of folks thought judge ellis was quite a character. >> he was. >> was equally tough on both sides? >> i think it would have been equally tough on both sides of the defense been up there more. the prosecution were the people up there the most. he said some funny things like for instance when andre forgot to mention something and he came back with a comment about confession is good for the soul.
shannon: you stay away from what you are supposed to stay away from during the trial and not talk to other jurors and to your deliberation. >> the first part was not talking about the case to be jurors because you spent a lot of time waiting in a small room. i tried to ask people what is your favorite food and those things. the youngest including the alternate in her 20s and the oldest on our jury was 69. average age is 50s. one person drove 108 miles to do this. i was almost there but second furthest away. shannon: did you ever have hesitation once you realized what the trial was be what you were questioned about to be involved in this? >> say that again. shannon: do you worry, i being called to be a juror on the paul manafort trial, any hesitation
about being a juror? >> not at all. it is my civic duty. i will serve my country anyway i can. shannon: you shed some light on it, thank you. our panel of experts joins me to break down what we heard but new details emerged about the suspect in the murder of mollie tibbetts, a man officials say is an illegal immigrant atlanta job and lived in iowa and detected for four years. >> this raises questions about his immigration, employment and
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the navy is moving ships and submarines out of the state, positioning them to help with response effort is needed. residents rush to stores to stock up on supplies, officials warned of damaging winds, prolonged heavy rainfall and life-threatening flash flooding. new details on the shocking murder case feeling more outrageous the immigration system, sparking a national conversation on that. anita vogel is here to fill us in. >> what started as a story about a missing young woman in middle america is now front and center in the debate over illegal immigration. the suspect accused of murdering mollie tibbetts, 24-year-old cristhian bahena rivera made his first court appearance today, he
confessed to following mollie tibbetts when she was jogging immensity blacked out at the next thing he remembered was finding her bloodied body in his trunk. authority that he into the country illegally four to twee 7 years ago and was working near where mollie tibbetts went missing. originally the owner said they use the e-verify system which allows employers to confirm the eligibility status of employees to work in the us that earlier today, what the farmers had to walk that back. >> what we learned in the last 24 hours is that our employees not who he said he was and just within the last four hours we have come to learn that the social security admission verification service is not the same as theverify. >> law enforcement officials say he used fake documentations to obtain work at the farm and he had 0 immigration status in the country. the story ratcheting up the immigration debate just ahead of the midterm elections of democrats charging by focusing on individual criminal cases republicans are destroying the idea that immigrants are more
prone to violent crime. donald trump says the point is rivera never should have been in the country in the first place. >> mollie tibbetts, an incredibly a woman is not permanently separated from her family. a person came in from mexico illegally and killed her. we need the wall, we need our immigration laws changed. >> reporter: rivera is being held on a $5 million cash bond, perimeter hearing on first-degree murder charge is set for august 31st and there will be cameras in the courtroom so we will be watching that. jillian: mollie tibbetts's death ignited a firestorm as some say politics should not be part of this tragedy at all. former ohio senate minority leader and senior columnist@townzoobahall.com, welcome to you both.
you saw a video of the president talking about mollie tibbetts saying we got to get the wall, do all of it. how do you respond to those who say this is not the time for politics? >> i think this is exactly the time for politics. my heart goes out to the family. we are all united in that but this is an issue we have to discuss because too many of our young people and old people are being murdered, injured, victims of crime because of illegal aliens. illegal aliens in large part are not committing other crimes besides breaking into the country but a certain number of them are and if we don't enforce our laws we are going to continue to see kate steinles and mollie tibbettss, the numbers keep rising. we have to stop it, we have to
enforce the laws that the american people want. >> what about that? these are laws whether you hate the more likely, they were duly passed by congress a lot of people will say they are not being enforced. the system is broken and congress seems unable to get anything done. >> obviously there are significant issues when it comes to immigration laws in the united states, part of that is because we have gridlock in the united states congress and neither democrats nor republicans are willing to come together and try something between build a wall and abolish ice. there is a consensus in the middle of all this that we have to address in order to move the nation forward. we need to enforce laws but this tragic circumstance in iowa. you have an employer who sounded like in good faith tried to verify the individual's immigration status and the system failed them. how are you supposed to enforce
a law when you couldn't figure out whether he was legally in the country or not. >> reports the family is saying this is not the guy they thought he was. he is using a different name. there is one reporting washington post that he was using a stolen id. how do you fix this? >> that happens all the time and if you or i were using a stolen id we would go to jail. if an illegal alien does it we have an establishment to excuse it. he got into this country, he shouldn't have. we should be able to secure our borders. that isa, these are the most basic jobs of any government, to secure a country's borders, protect its people, we are failing that and that is a choice of a significant number of the members of our establishment, a choice not to enforce these laws because many of them want illegal immigration. >> that is a little bit overstated and here is why. there is this underlying
narrative the democrats want to flood the country with illegal immigrants because somehow this is going to become our voting base in 2020. of the grant amnesty to these people we get a new voting base. >> that is making the assumption immigrants of any stripe particularly usually in this context talking about individuals from the hispanic and latino communities is going to blankly vote on one issue. many other nuances include faith, many of them are catholic, they are not a monolithic voting base. the other thing is there are a number of us who respects the job being done by our law enforcement and ice that went to see comprehensive immigration reform including strengthening the borders. is it abolish ice or build a wall? we need to find a middle ground for all americans and retain our history as an immigrant nation.
>> my latin immigrant wife whose family came here, joined the army, build lives here, she is scared for our kids because this is out of control and we need to take control of our borders to protect the american people. shannon: hard to do that if you abolish ice. not everybody in the left wants that to happen but there is a liberal group that does. come back soon. coming up, breaking down our exclusive interview with a juror from the paul manafort trial. >> america needed to know how close this was and the evidence was overwhelming. i did not want paul manafort to be guilty but he was. >> new polls show republicans have an uphill battle to keep control of the house in the
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shannon: brand-new fox poll shows democrats in a strong position going into the midterm elections. that calls for the calls for impeachment government fringe to the mainstream, michael cohen's plea deal and a contented to be speaker of the house and republicans retake control, kevin mccarthy joins us live to weigh in on it. great to have you with us. let me ask what level of pressure you feel as a republican to either embrace or distance yourself from the president? >> not to distance myself at all, this president has done a tremendous job rebuilding this economy, rebuilding our military and every step along the way. i know what you have watched and
seen and not one of the items i saw had anything to do with russia collusion or anything else in that manner. this president has worked hard and stand strong and this election comes around you will see republicans maintain the house. shannon: we will talk to our legal panel about what the cohen guilty plea does with regard to the president but what is your understanding or feeling about the fact he stood there and set on two campaign-finance account the president directed him to do something specific, people agree and disagree about whether it is a, lacked or not but cohen does lincoln to it. >> let's remember, the justice department said about:yesterday that he is someone who has a pattern of lies and disbelief,
dishonesty for extended period of time, that is what the justice department said about him just yesterday. he has lied, he is dishonest for an extended period of time. in my point of view the whole investigation was about russia collusion, this has nothing to do with it, so i see nothing wrong in where he is going right now. >> i want to read an editorial and give you a chance to respond. the headline is this. silence is complicity, republican leaders of the legislative branch are failing to fulfill their constitutional duty to provide checks and balances on trump and mccarthy has given little indication he would change that in his watch as speaker. how much is he willing to tie himself to trump in pursuit of the speaker's gavilan the power that comes with it? >> i would expect nothing less from the sacramento but let's remember what we have done. we have built an economy that has created 4 million jobs since the election. we passed a tax bill that would unemployment to the lowest
points we have seen for african-american women and so many aspects. think of this. the last 49 years in the history of america unemployment has only been below 4% 8 months and is 49 years the three of those eight months were this year. we stopped human trafficking on online systems, we have passed the most comprehensive ability to stop opioid epidemic. this congress is also interested in the military. we reformed the g.i. bill. in history you have 15 years to use it or you lost it. now it is for a lifetime. i think we have gone beyond and have so much more work to do. we have asked starting to build the wall, secure our border but what have the democrats done? not one that is the textile that created 1.5 million jobs, not one democrat voted for the two times we put before us to have immigration reform and secure
the border. what the democrats put across the border? they want to abolish ice, they went to impeach the president, that is what they voted on twice. tom stiers bragged that is list is bigger than the nra to impeach the president. what else do they want to do with our healthcare system? bankrupt medicare, cost more than $32 trillion but it would end medicare as we know it. 55% of americans have health care based on their employer. that would be no more. this is the plan the democrats have but you also see as much difference. it is results versus resistance. >> we have a lot of fox news polls. one of the top things people talked about they care about in this election is healthcare but above that was the economy. good news for you on the economy because when people were asked who is most responsible for the current economy far and away
from/republicans took the winning orders, 44%, democrats and president obama down 15%. that is a positive but you also have this poll talking about your opinion of the democratic party, the democratic party has a 50% favorable, the republican party is upside down by 17 points, 39% favorable, 56% unfavorable, they give credit to the economy but are not happy with the party. how do you campaign based on those numbers. >> if i went back two weeks ago and looked at the generic ballot that generic ballot two weeks ago was the exact same ballot it was the day before the 2016 election where we won the presidency, the senate and maintained the house. this election is different than any election i have seen before. it is going to weave back and forth week by week. what we have to do is continually solve problems, build results but what you see, there is not one democrat voting
for the tax bill. what are they proposing? watch what happened across this country. when i was in sacramento and they were protesting me because of immigration we were arresting omar amen, a member of isis who was in california, allowed to come into this country under the obama administration, he killed a police officer in iraq because he is part of al qaeda and isis. we need to secure our borders. >> wanting parties agree on is there are a lot of immigration things that need to be cleaned up and whether you can find consensus we are tuned in. let us know, great to have you with us. >> thank you for being here and this election is going to be about results or resistance and i think at the end of the day the american people will pick the results. >> there's a lot of motivation on both sides and a lot of resistance. i have encountered it in person. we will see you again soon.
tuesday on northern virginia jury found paul manafort guilty him eight counterattacks and bank fraud. tonight one of those jurors spoke exclusively to fox news at my. our legal panel ways in on what they heard next. >> charges were legitimate for the prosecution tried to make a case about the russian collusion right from the beginning of the judge shot them down on that. we didn't waste a bit of time with that shenanigan. i don't keep track of regrets. i never count the wrinkles. and i don't add up the years.
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>> you heard about the liberations that led to a guilty verdict on eight charges but left ten others unsettled. paula duncan was speaking out. tom dupree and ninth circuit attorney for dylan, great to have both of you tonight. she decided to speak out even though the judge sealed the names and said the jurors, he wanted them to be safe, she felt she wanted people to know what went on behind closed doors. you don't often get that perspective from a juror. >> you always seek it as a trial were, fascinating to hear what jurors are focused on, usually not what the lawyers think. for example i'm noticing people i mapping and reminds us we have to be on alert and on our best behavior at all times because they are paying attention. i found it fascinating and great that she shared with people what the thought process was and is not afraid. i see a lot of hope for our democracy.
>> interesting to me that she said rick gates, the prosecution's darwinist, a lot were turned off by him and didn't all of them find incredible, the paper trail was just unmistakable and the bookkeeper testifying along with those documents led them where the prosecution wanted them to go. >> that was one of the more fascinating aspects of your interview and the point that resonated with me, she was saying how in some cases the jurors tuned out the actual testimony because they had doubts or concerns about the credibility of the witnesses and instead they based deliberations on the documents which is fantastic. it warms my heart as a litigator because a lot of text of the documents, you wonder is anyone going to look through these but they did. shannon: 18 counts, they found him guilty on eight but this is how close it came. there was one person who didn't want to say guilty on all 18.
>> we wanted to be hung. we tried for an extended period of time to convince her but in the end she held out. that is why we have ten counts that did not get it. shannon: anything that leads them to prosecute those 10 counts again? >> i don't know. evidence was to me, there was a lot of documentary evidence. if i were the prosecution i would be focusing on that other trial, the settlement cleef from manafort. they got him on dozens of years and potential sentencing. shannon: they went round and round but if there is reasonable doubt you don't move forward and the judge sent them back with the special charge, take another look but ultimately one person
may make a difference. >> that is true. that is our system, love it or hate it, one person can make a big difference. one thing i will say that impressed me is it is clear this jerry afforded paul manafort presumption of innocence, she said she didn't want him to be guilty and they came into this, she was a trump supporter, she came into this saying she didn't want it to be true but evidence left them no choice. shannon: she supported the president and felt the genesis of the mueller investigation has serious calls and questions about but when presented with the evidence in this case she was left with no other option. please stay where you are. we will be back to discuss if tuesday's manafort verdict or the cohen plea deal, is the president illegal jeopardy or is this a lot of bluster? right after this. e sounds will help me relax a bit. at least we don't have to worry about homeowners insurance. just call geico. geico helps with homeowners insurance?
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>> there is no question he has committed a federal crime, and wh >> no question he committed a federal crime. whether he can be indicted has never been decided. >> that is lanny davis, attorney for michael cohen, the president's former attorney talking, let's take it to our legal panel, there is, quote, no question the president committed a federal crime. >> i don't believe what he is saying is accurate. for one thing all that happened was the president's former lawyer into the plea bargain in which he made allegations and admissions concerning his conduct, that does not mean the president is guilty. if the president were called
upon to defend himself he would have strong defense to discharge. the object is the ultimate audience is congress. if we are talking possible impeachment maybe this has relevance but as far as whether the president can be charged with a federal crime bob mueller has been clear he will follow and respect department of justice guideline which says you cannot and shall not indicted sitting president. >> reporter: the second part of that whether he can be indicted has never been decided so we have guidance documents from 1973 and 2000. in your mind is that settled? rudy giuliani says he got an assurance verbally from mueller epstein that they acknowledge the doj guidelines, can't indicted sitting president. >> i think that is pretty settled. the noise lanny davis, paid hack for the clintons and the 90s is spreading around on media today, communication messaging, impeachment and nothing else. there is no evidentiary value to
michael cohen's sudden flip-flop on this issue when previously he said something different and now saving his side and you can't blame him for that but throwing your client under the bus, breaking the sacred oath and trust of attorney-client privilege and pointing a finger in this way is nothing but opportunistic and will seen as such by the public at large. >> the senate has going on of brett kavanaugh to be the next supreme court justice, a number stepping up today saying with all this cohen stuff in mind and the fact that brett kavanaugh made statements whether sitting presidents can be indicted with the subject of an investigation there's no way we can confirm him and have to put the brakes on. >> it is absurd that argument and makes no sense, the fact is a lot of people are desperate to stop brett kavanaugh. i think his confirmation is inevitable and this is a hail mary pass by people trying to
postpone or find some way to stop a near certainty at this point. no connection, no reason to delay the confirmation to the united states up in court. >> what do you make of the latest claims and there are some democrats who stepped up to say even if he does get through he must recuse himself from any case he could hear dealing with this president? >> complete garbage, kind of pathetic and thanks to social media we have real-time compare the cut and paste talking points, they would have more credibility if they were selective in their outrage but they are not, scattershot outrage and autopilot outrage and it detracts from their credibility. i remember when people hold their fire on both sides and let the other guy go by. the nominee could have been way worse for democrats and more extreme than brett kavanaugh so this is silly. >> funny to look back at current members of the court being voted
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