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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151219:08:25:00

Buys the crossbow. less than 30 days later anna creamer takes an arrow to her chest. and she goes to the hospital. less than 90 days after that, she takes an arrow in the back, and this time she goes to the morgue. >> had to be murder, said the prosecutor. >> that shows that the arrow basically comes straight in. >> look how the arrow went straight into her back and almost right through her, said the medical examiner, as if it was carefully aimed from close range. >> i was able to run my hand ov...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151219:08:38:00

>> poof? >> like, yeah, you know, a poof sound. it was the bow -- and then i turned around quick and my wife was already on the floor. >> did you hear her say anything? >> no. just a groan sound. >> as for that friend, sue cotton, who testified earlier that shed lectured ken about getting rid of the crossbow -- >> did you tell her, i dont want to just throw it away or something like that. >> there was never a conversation with her. she just flat-out lied to everybody here. >> in fact, said cream...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151219:08:26:00

As the arrow came from back to front, it went through the aorta, completely severing it. just cut it right in half. >> no doubt about the conclusion, she said. >> i determined that the manner of death in this case was homicide. >> the "x" right here is where mr. creamer said he was standing. >> the detective who interrogated creamer right after the shooting testified when he asked creamer why the crossbow was loaded and with a hunting arrow, the answer that his wife must have loaded it didnt see...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151219:08:46:00

Crossbow went off inside a bag. maybe that made it an accident after all. >> we had the bag and we had the weapon, and we were trying to figure out desperately how could this weapon be in the bag and have done what it did. >> and none of the positions this bag was in made any sense whatsoever, with the weapon inside of it. it didnt make sense. >> we couldnt figure it out. >> we couldnt find a good exit hole. >> there was no rip in it. >> there was no hole for the arrow. it didnt make sense. >> s...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151219:08:19:00

>> you need to relax. >> i mean, i love my wife so much. >> i know you do. >> why would i -- i would never do anything to hurt my -- and i love my son! >> of course, ken creamer was exactly right, this officer was very suspicious of him. >> i dont know! >> anna would put a loaded crossbow -- >> i dont know! i dont know! >> okay. kenny, kenny, you got to calm down. >> i cant. >> ken creamer was the picture of a grief-stricken man, but his answers, decided police, just didnt add up. what happened ...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151219:08:16:00

>> exactly. the right height also, the right height, the right angle. and i can tell you, if i was going to murder someone with a crossbow, id darn make sure it goes in on an angle. >> creamer wrapped a white towel now reddened with blood around the fatal wound on his wifes back. >> so he would get down and just -- i said affectionately, you know, just very caringly rearrange it and he would say, wheres the ambulance. i need help. this was supposed to be a gift for a friend. it wasnt supposed to...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151219:08:28:00

Station. you can take it to the police station and you can just drop it off there. and he said -- he started to laugh. >> could such a precise memory 2 1/2 years later be trusted completely? that would become an issue. still, two shootings less than three months apart. perhaps insurance was the motive, said the prosecution. the creamers kept policies for heart attacks, for cancer, even for their dog, about $1 million in all. enough for murder? but motive wasnt at the heart of the prosecutions ca...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151219:08:29:00

>> i saw anna laying there facedown with an arrow square in her back. >> but the true star of the case against ken creamer was the next-door neighbor. that retired naval commander, randall howes. >> ken is just kind of babbling, making noise or whatever, and saying, we need help, we need help now. >> remember, howes told us he saw something in the garage that jumped out at him much later. a detail about to assume a huge importance. as he stood there near annas body, he testified, he was scanning...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151219:08:04:00

Me. come on, it was an accident. end of conversation, and he was released. >> they bought the crossbow together for recreation anna told them, and both she and ken had tried it out, but after that close call, they were getting rid of it. >> he was giving it to his wife to give to one of the other teachers she worked with and, you know, get rid of it. >> but, of course, they couldnt have any idea back then what would soon happen to that crossbow, and their good friends, the creamers, especially, ...
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20151219:08:36:00

Crossbow, i found it to be in excellent mechanical operating condition, showing very little wear from very little use. >> the crossbow, he testified, simply could not have fired without someone pulling the trigger. but the expert only hit the weapon, he didnt testify by throwing it, which is what ken creamer said he had done. by the way, the defense, j.j. mason was an expert in guns, the kind that fired bullets. but did he know for sure about a crossbow, so how, asked the defense, could anyone r...
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