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Are affected that his background and his experience doesnt fit the requirements of the job. im going to look very seriously at that issue. >> all right. senator kirsten gillibrand, always good to have you on the show. thank you very much. kasie hunt stay with us if you can. chuck todd whats coming up on "meet the press" this weekend >> were going to do a lot on eric garner. ill have the new york city d.a. on the show and then do a little on immigration, greg abbott who filed the lawsuit new gove...

Grand jury. >> lets talk about this grand jury. we can debate what happened in ferguson. lets talk about this case. >> he didnt die from obesity. >> its important for viewers to know were not talking about finding the officer guilty were talking probable cause. its the lowest standard. everybody always jokes you can indict a grapefruit. you can. what d.a. in america look at that videotape and not immediately go you know what? >> theres another question in both cases and that is whether the d.a. ...

Theres great teachers and bad teachers. okay this is for the cops. theres great cops and theres some bad cops. look at that video, this was not a model cop. >> first of all, heres the other thing you need to understand. that police response thats why d. a.sshould not prosecute police officers. when they run for office they try to get their endorsements. mayors are afraid of police unions. not all mayors but they have lobbyists and money and know when the police union comes out against you when y...

Happens in the vast p preponderance of cases they do. its hard to understand why the district attorney wouldnt go in there we have an indictable offense. >> police officers would be angry. >> staten island is a community -- >> also what d.a. doesnt end up and we can say as well -- the . d.a. in ferguson, would doesnt say at the end i want an indictment. >> a lot of times if they are not poised to ask for an indictment they dont present evidence. >> no doubt about it.

Forward. >> you look at whats going -- i think the grand jury process and again al sharpton talked about this yesterday morning, thats the first thing you have to look at and specifically when it involves cops. im not saying its rigged, im not saying its fixed, you can talk about the politics of it. but also if im a d. a.im not going to piss off cops because i depend on cops to come in and testify for me. >> its an incestuous relationship. >> it has to be a close relationship. let me tell you so...

Investigation but the panel sat for nine weeks and heard from 50 witnesses, testimony from 22 civilians in addition to police officers and medical officials. also 60 exhibits admitted into evidence including four videos, police training information and his medical records. >> this d. a.also didnt have the guts to tell the judge i want this released. and so he made the decision and there are d.a.s with integrity. hes approaching a cop, shoot and kill him. the police chief said unjustified, he was...

How many times in the past mcculloch released the entire proceedings of a grand jury? how many times has the d.a. in staten island went to a judge and asked for an extraordinary order -- >> didnt we hear everybody wanted it to be transparent and the evidence released. im just asking. isnt that what i heard? >> my position would be, my position would be at the beginning there should have been a special prosecutor appointed. >> but thats a different point. but youre not saying that ferguson grand ...