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Massachusetts, he left massachusetts with the highest per capita debt in the country. so i think its a very risky move and im a little dubious about it. >> rob, youre involved in texas politics a lot. i know youre involved in an outside group thats helping david dewhurst. when i saw an attack ad that say "david dewhurst, hes a moderate," i thought was a snl parody. how bad does that damage somebody being tagged as a moderate? >> its a silly, silly ad. in texas, moderate -- is it a bad word? >> h...