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She had a car. she had free travel. >> youre saying its statutory? statutory is when somebody consents despite their age. >> but what were doing -- again, im bringing balance. i understand mel and pauls point. the point is we dont know. it relies on credibility. there are neighbors who say they were a happy couple, he was ado they went out together, danced together. i dont want to bemir of here but we have to understand its a process. >> this is whats difficult. theres always a defense and that ...