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Official that got his conviction in the iran contra scandal overturned on appeal. at the time tia was designed to be a sweeping new electronic data program. the idea was that a potential terrorist would leave a digital trail but to find that trail you had to collect all of the digital information there was, from anywhere and everywhere you could find it and it had a creepy logo of a pyramid with this eye looking down on earth. look at this thing. if you were to ask alex joans to design a number ...

That. now, some of these are less invasive than data mining, but all are horrible! these do get me worked up. the fact that government grew so much that it now employs 22 million americans? outrageous! im furious about our debt, and continued deficit spending for things like $100 million presidential trips. and dubious pork. and programs that dont work. the drug war causes crime, and imprisons millions of americans. disproportionately minorities. thats horrible! so is corporate welfare and farm ...

His dad turned him in. we couldnt keep up with him. he still got on a plane. yet we think theyre going to go through billions of bits of information every day? >> whats your answer to that? >> john, heres the glorious thing. were not going through these billions of bits every day. this collection of phone records that mr. snowden talked about are not used for data mining. theyre being used when theres a specific terrorist case we can identify. we say hey, we think weve got information that leads...

50? i dont believe it. bureaucrats always exaggerate the value of their work. why would this be different? because its the homeland security state? no, people keeping secrets are more prone to embellish. the spies say what they do is constitutional. federal judges approve everything. they wont abuse this power. i dont trust them. they always abuse power. as one rig ertearian blogger put it "were all going to suffer from the powers of the nsa if we dont check them now." then other libertarians de...

To persuade members of congress to vote a certain way and they can use the information against the public. weep dont want a culture in our country of distrust, of fear. my parents came from the middle east, they came from regime that is were tyrannical. people were afraid to talk on the phone or talk to their neighbors because they were afraid everyone was a spy for the government. we dont want that kind of culture here in this country. it has a damaging effect on our culture. >> you cant see it...

Im infuriated by more than this list of 100 things that government does. but data mining compared to all these other abuses? i needed to learn more about that. and for saying that, libertarians now call me disgusting and an lino. libertarian in name only. some agree with my list, but they also agree with the blogger who wrote "the existence of worst violations is not a reason to dismiss pretty damn bad ones." and thats true. i dont dismiss the danger in data mining. i dont. but keep it in perspe...

Respect your opinion completely. by the way, i have three -- i want to feel like beckel right now. what has he leaked that we didnt already know? number one. if its stuff we already know, how is that treasonous. and number two, arent you concerned what the nsa has been up to that theyve been data mining innocent americans when the 4th amendment to the constitution says in order to do what theyve done to americans, they need probable cause and they certainly dont have any of that? >> well, im mos...

Been conducted lawfully and constitutionally. representativea amash. kept a lot of americans safe for a long time. >> why do you trust government on this? >> john, i dont trust individuals. theres no one who brings a deeper distrust of the federal government to washington, d.c. than me. but ive seen this process. the concerns that representative amash has about the data, he talks about them listening to calls and data mining, those arent happening. even mr. snowden hasnt alleged a single thing t...

Americans by improperly using private information. 44% say its more likely to help catch terrorists. for those who think the government effort is misguided. trevor moore have this suggestion. >> only way to fight back against our countrys data mining is to make it irrelevant. that is were were launching everyone talk like a terrorist all the time. if we all openly discuss terrorist plots, then eavesdropping becomes pointless. >> hi, mom, i at school. >> blow up the brooklyn bridge. >> jon: with ...

Military, stand down means do nothing. they were given a mission to stay in tripoli. >> which in effect is keeping them from, we assume, everything i know about the military is that they would do anything they could, if any one of their people are in harms way. so, you know, but again, it is hard to know exactly if he is saying as we understand it to be or if theres something more. >> more on this tonight at 10:00 p.m. we will tease that in a bit. john, the nsa story, you have this -- we will se...