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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 01:11:00

Are members of the inner circle and the trump administration. how much does it matter that the prosecutors can show he had corrupted intent? >> as we analyzed and the prosecution memo, if the prosecutor brings a narrow charge, in some ways it matters not at all. if the prosecution can show that mr. trump was aware for example that the slate of electoral significance that was submitted to congress was false, that could be enough in and of itself. if he knew that there was no legal -- whatsoever t...
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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 01:04:00

Days, soon. what exactly could that look like? luckily we have two handy potential road maps here. number one, we have the other criminal indictment mr. smith has already filed against former president trump. the charges he poor against him in the documents case. and number two, we have this. this thing. a group of seven highly respected former prosecutors and defense attorneys and prominent lawyers and administration officials put together a very comprehensive model prosecution, laying out what...
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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 04:08:00

Opus. there are three charges you talk about explicitly. one, conspiracy to defraud the u. s. for the fake elector spin. two, obstruction of an official proceeding, trying to stop mike pence from certifying the election on thundery sixth. three, this is probably the most explosive, just because its been bandied about a lot and not all on the same page, inciting an insurrection or giving comfort to insurrectionists. can you talk about that last charge and why it was included in here? from a layma...
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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 04:11:00

Interpretation available of those terms. so it is a pretty good case made there, this qualifies as an insurrection. that is something that would have to be litigated. i think there are issues around proof of the then presidents mental state. >> that is what i went to get to also, danya. we know that jared kushner has testified whether the president had corrupt intent, whether he knew he was lying around his claims that the election was stolen. other people have testified who are members of the i...
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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 04:05:00

And defense attorneys and prominent lawyers and administration officials put together a very comprehensive model prosecution, laying out what they think the charges against trump are likely to be. joining us now is danya perry, former assistant u. s. attorney for the southern district of new york and one of the office of this weighty model prosecution, and david aaron, a former federal prosecutor with the justice department national security division, which handles things like the mishandling of...
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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 01:08:00

That is why we kind of had to include it. because, if everything was a case for bringing this very little used statute, this is it. as you point out, it has seldom been used since the civil war. i agree with david in his remarks, this should be streamlined as the other indictment, is but it is going to be very difficult for the prosecutors to do thats. given the defendants, the wealth of information, the possibility of so many defendants, and so they could keep it to probably two charges, but if...
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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 01:07:00

Boxes before making the statements. theyve got text messages of mr. nautas, where they talk about moving those boxes. again, before making the statements. and still today, walt now to pleaded not guilty. i dont know if that was his own idea, or if that is the legal advice that hes getting. it was certainly a bold decision here. the very live question now is, how long will it walt not to stick with that decision? will he make it all the way to a trial with the lawyer paid for by donald trump? joi...
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MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight June 4, 2024 04:11:00

Is there any validity to that? >> there is certainly a common language that former prosecutor and current prosecutor will have. in my experience, those relationships, theyre really much more on a case by case basis, and you might be up against a former prosecutor who is going to yell at you all day, say that he knows how to do your job better than you do. thats not would be a good relationship. i have had excellent relationships with the defense attorneys who would never think of prosecuting som...
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