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is cross-examined if he takes the stand, with the prosecution arguing that trump's extensive legal history is all fair game as they hope to impeach his credibility. judge juan merchan is set to rule on what can be used by the d.a.s office and we will get that ruling on monday, which is also when opening statements are slated to begin. joining me now for more as former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. listen, let's talk about jury selection. i know it has been chatted over quite a bit, but i did want to ask you specifically about this angle. there are two lawyers that are on this jury. your thoughts about whether or not that was smart to seat two jurors -- let me be clear, excuse me, two lawyers on this jury. let me be clear, they are corporate lawyers, et cetera. but, your thoughts? >> first of all, it is great to be with you, katie, on this saturday. i have a very strong view about lawyers. people would come in the office and talk about the kind of jury they have ceded. when i heard there was a lawyer, or god for bid more than one lawyer on the jury, i
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gonna be four years signed? >> i think this court has shown no willingness to stop assigned from sort of the partisan frame on these hard issues that are important to our democracy. we're optimistic that as did the colorado supreme court, when you look closely at the eat legal arguments and evidence presented here, the really isn't a close case here. donald trump engaged in an insurrection against the constitution, and therefore, under the constitution, he cannot be our president again. >> we'll see what the courts decide. if they do end up deciding here. eric olson, an intermediate representing the plaintiffs here, thank you so much for your time tonight. >> thank you, caitlin. >> joining me now to break down this lengthy filing that we got, john dean, former white house counsel to president nixon, elie honig, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, and cnn's senior analyst and regular here on the source, elliott, let me start with you here. you just heard with eric nelson was arguing here. his assessment of reading this.
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this latest with trump appealing colorado, and you look at maine, colorado, the documents case, georgia, at election interference. you look at the civil fraud suit in new york city. you look at e. jean carroll, stormy daniels. i mean, there are -- i can't think of someone who has more legal challenges facing him. i don't know how many layers he has or can get. chris christie always said in this show he is staying in the race. even if he isn't qualifying for the iowa debate stage, he is staying in the race because one of these legal cases, if not multiple, will catch up with him. is that true in terms of the timing of all of these cases? >> well, in terms of the criminal cases, i think he's always had this fear of being prosecuted. i mean, one of the things -- i didn't realize it at the time, but i flew down to washington on a plane with him before the inauguration, and he asked me, should he fire the u.s. attorney for the southern district of new
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potentially push this entire trial which was scheduled for march back beyond the election or if it's decided pretty quickly by the court of appeals and the supreme court does whatever it will or will not do here, they still might be able to squeeze in this case. they put it at 50/50 whether this case will go and whether or not we're looking for answers from the court of appeals whether trump has immunity and we saw him doubling down last night in his filing. the bigger question is how long does it take to wrap up this issue so this trial may go forward? >> paula reid, i always get so excited when you say you're exactly right. thank you very much for being with us, as always. let's continue the conversation with us now is former assistant prosecutor and former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york nick akerman. good morning. what do you make of trump's main filing? >> his main filing, he's trying to throw as much ketchup on the wall as he possibly can and
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donald trump doesn't like this. he doesn't like that it makes him, in his view, look weak. and in an argument with that lawyer, he fires him. - white house counsel don mcgahn is leaving. the president confirmed the departure with this tweet. - when trump would say, "where's my roy cohn?" he basically wanted someone who would lie for him and someone who would defend him if he lied, because his ethical standards were less than pure. - the high-power, high-profile edition of the president's personal legal team. he has rudy giuliani, whose résumé includes u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. - trump and giuliani share a love of conspiracy theories. they seek out conspiracy theories, and then they amplify and promote them and try to plant them in the right places. and ukraine was really at the crux of a lot of conspiracy theories about the upcoming 2020 election. - donald trump is in a world of trouble. rudy giuliani goes on defense for his boy.
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his lawyers. when you are somebody like trump who has a fragile ego, who is a misogynist, who is a racist, in my view, and who also has this constant need to talk, there's a term for that, logoria. that's a real problem. it's gonna be an issue for his lawyers to try to keep him quiet even in the courtroom. but what a black woman judge is gonna be there telling him when he can talk and how to behave. so this is going to be a very interesting, interesting trial. >> that is the understatement. judge cordell, thank you very much for time tonight. we >> thank you. >> i wanna bring in elie honig, of former federal prosecutor, david kelly, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. i want to bring back some of the judge made, but it's not
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loeg rhea. that is a real problem. it's going to be an issue for his lawyers to try to keep him quiet even in the courtroom. and a black woman judge is going to be there telling him when he can talk and how to behave. so, this is going to be a very interesting, interesting trial. >> that is the understatement. judge cordell, thank you so much for your time tonight. >> thank you. and i want to bring in elie honig, a former federal prosecutor, and david kelly, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. i want to get to some of the points that the judge made there, elie. but it's not what the special counsel team was looking for. but it's definitely not what trump's team was looking for. what do you make of the date and whether or not -- how trump's attorneys are feeling about this? >> it's definitely a win for doj. if i was trump's attorneys right now, i would be devastated. i think the judge has wide discretion to set this trial date. i think the judge we just heard
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lawyer at the doj, jeffrey clark -- they tried to get a federal court to stop d. a. fani willis from arresting them this week. but tonight, a judge denied those requests and, unless an appeals court weighs in, mark meadows and jeffrey clark are set to be arrested in fulton county. keep your eyes out for the mugshots. joining me now are mimi rocah, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, now the district attorney for westchester county, and gwen keyes fleming, former district attorney for dekalb county. -- mimi and gwen, it's great to have you here. let me first get you thoughts on this late breaking news here, regarding the judge effectively giving meadows and clark the hand on their filing to delay this arrest. does that seem unusual to? and does that suggest anything about the broader case to have this moved into federal court? >> it doesn't seem unusual, and alex. in fact, it seems so normal that it seems almost like that's what is taking people by
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