to run into trouble here is this is where the rubber meets the road. he can say all he wants that he had a genuine belief that the election was stolen just like john eastman advanced that theory yesterday. it's not a legal defense that will hold up in court. and i think he's going to be hard-pressed to find any more realistic legal defenses in this case. >> and gloria, let me get your thoughts. it is really striking to see this mugshot of rudy giuliani, the former mayor of new york, the former u.s. attorney for the southern district, chief u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. what impact will that have? this visual. especially for trump supporters. >> well, i think trump supporters will rally around rudy giuliani. this whole thing, if you take a step back and think of it and think of the last years, this is shakespearean. this is something where you
negotiations. >> okay. thank you so much for the reporting there in atlanta. victor? what happens now? let's bring in former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york elie honig. all right. so as was mentioned, some of the 19; they now have these agreements in place. what does that mean? walk us through it. >> so 5 of the 19 now have agreements in place. these are agreements to be clear between the d.a. and the individual defendants that have now been signed off by the judge. there's two components to each of these release agreements. the first of it is a cash bond. donald trump has agreed to a $200,000 kcash bond. he doesn't have to write a check for $200,000. that's just in case he doesn't show. ray smith, $50,000. scott hall $10,000. expect to hear about more of these agreements being reached throughout the day. now, the second part of these bail release agreements, which are i think more complicated mere, restrictions on communications. the judge has entered an order.
we are going to have to attack it as a business, not just as individual crime. >> we will follow up with civil rico cases. maybe at some point in the future in which we will really destroy the power of mafia. >> hard to believe seeing those videos -- former new york city mayor rudy giuliani is one of the 19 people, including donald trump, indicted yesterday on racketeering charges. but nearly four decades ago, hooley rudy giuliani was u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. and he used those very same rico principles to take down the leadership of the infamous five families of new york's organized crime. tonight, giuliani called the rico charge against him ridiculous. back with me tonight is neal katyal, department of justice veteran and former acting solicitor general during the obama administration. his podcast, courtside, has a brand-new episode out on this indictment. and you must listen to. it neal, we keep hearing about racketeering. can you explain exactly what
my office and other parts of the justice department has changed the definition of the problem of crime in america. we are going to have to attack it as a business, not just as individual crime. we have followed up with civil rico cases. there may be at some point in the future and which we will really destroy the power of mafia. >> hard to believe seeing those videos -- former new york city mayor rudy giuliani is one of the 19 people, including donald trump, indicted yesterday on racketeering charges. but nearly four decades ago, rudy giuliani was u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. and he used those very same rico principles to take down the leadership of the infamous five families of new york's organized crime. tonight, giuliani called the rico charge against him ridiculous. back with me tonight is neal katyal, department of justice veteran and former acting solicitor general during the obama administration. his podcast, courtside, has a brand-new episode out on this indictment.
three years after the capitol attacks, about two weeks before the iowa caucuses. prosecutors think it will not take more than four to six weeks to present their evidence. then trump will get to go. this could mean trump will be in the courtroom and on the campaign trail at the same time. the former president's codefendants appeared in court today to face new charges in the mar-a-lago documents investigation. trump body man and his official codefendant walt nauta pleaded not guilty. but once again the court is facing a delay as carlos de oliveira, the latest codefendant who was added in that superseding indictment showed up without a florida licensed attorney. his arraignment has been postponed to next week. you don't see trump in those videos along side the attorneys and two codefendants. he also pleaded not guilty to the charges against him, but we waived his appearance at today's hearing. joining me now, jennifer rogers, and david kelly, former u.s.
today's hearing. joining us now, jennifer rogers, cnn's legal analyst and for the federal prosecutor. david kelly, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. thank you both for being here. jennifer, this is an aggressive schedule. the prosecutors are putting this forward, and they are saying that they want not just this to get pro trump's lawyers the bulk of the discovery over the next two years weeks. compared to a normal timeline, how un-workable is that? >> it's very tight, caitlin. we're thinking about cases where we were in the u.s. attorney's office, a run of the mill case would usually take nine months. it is not that it cannot get done, they have dedicated prosecution teams, dedicated defense teams doing just this, it is feasible in theory. i think it's very tight. i can't imagine they can do it that fast. >> trump is obviously not happy about this. he saying that he can't believe jack smith scheduled it for the day after new year's day.
rules set by that person in a black robe. if the rules are you do not talk about this other than in the court, because it's not punishment, it's to ensure a fair trial. if that does not happen, there have to be, there has to be immediate consequence to violating a court order. only in that way, can everyone have respect for the system. >> well, we know with the trump team response would be is that he's a candidate for president, he's running, he has his free speech right. we will see what the judge does decide here on the protective order first. judge, thank you so much for joining us. judge cordell. >> sure. my pleasure. >> i'm joined now by our panel of legal experts, karen friedman agnifilo, who is the chief assistant district attorney under district attorney science, also with us, nick ackerman, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. thank you both for being here. obviously a key question of what the judge is going to
they acted on it by filing this protective order which is an effort to keep important information about this case from the press i am shocked actually all the networks have not lined up in filed pleadings already objecting to this very broad attempts by the biden attempt by the biden administration to keep information away from the american people during the election season for the american people have a right to know. of course joe biden does not want that to happen. shannon: will watch for your response to the judge and the justice department on that point on monday of course will follow all this. john lauro thank you for joining us. >> thank you. before today's legal battle at barkley law professor former deputy assistant attorney general john yoo and andy mccarthy former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. gentlemen, great to see both of you. this fight over the televising of the trail there a lot of democrats a lot of folks on the left lighting up saying they want to see it. now it's unlike the president's
judge denied their request on an extension of a possible fr protective order. and also they're calling for the judge to recuse herself. he has pleaded not guilty to all federal charges. i want to discuss this. jamaal is a former assistant to the attorney general and nick is a former assistant special watergate prosecutor and former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. good to see both of you. jamaal, first, what's your reaction to laura's argument? >> look, i don't think laura's right. the president can certainly say a lot of things publicly and engage in his right of free speech. what he can't do is ask someone to engage in comment that is illegal. the asking doesn't mean it's covered by the first amendment in that context. in this case the president did
they acted on it by filing this protective order which is an effort to keep important information about this case from the press i am shocked actually all the networks have not lined up in filed pleadings already objecting to this very broad attempts by the biden attempt by the biden administration to keep information away from the american people during the election season for the american people have a right to know. of course joe biden does not want that to happen. shannon: will watch for your response to the judge and the justice department on that point on monday of course will follow all this. john lauro thank you for joining us. >> thank you. before today's legal battle at barkley law professor former deputy assistant attorney general john yoo and andy mccarthy former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. gentlemen, great to see both of you. this fight over the televising of the trail there a lot of democrats a lot of folks on the left lighting up saying they want to see it.