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Pro-american country so dissidents end up having their lives threatened because they talk positively about america, because they cooperated with america, and they have to leave, running for their lives, they need somewhere to go. that is how we encourage them -- >> tucker: may i ask you a question, are we pretending democracy and i despise the venezuelan government. they are evil. >> david: we agree on that. >> tucker: why are we pretending every go around the country should be democracy? do we ...

Let me ask you the question that ive asked you syria and libya. how is it americas interest directly to effect regime chains to overthrow the government of nicolas maduro? >> david: i dont agree many people in washington are calling for the u.s. to intervene right now. but the u.s. does -- >> tucker: come back to washington. >> david: im in new york and i left washington yesterday. but i do think this administration would like to see regime change and improve sanctions and other sort of soft pow...

They believe in form of -- >> tucker: okay, all right. we are beating russia i guess. >> david: democracy goals and becomes authoritarian countries, that ultimately will threaten us. that democracy. >> tucker: im sorry, but that is not true. really quick. do you like jordan to become a democracy? it is a dictate -- dictatorship do we want to have free and fair elections in jordan tomorrow? >> david: eventually come eventually all of these countries are moving towards democracy. even a place like...

North korea was the largest consumer of cognac. >> david: yesterday dutch officials were told sees 80,000 bottles of vodka that were headed for kim jong uns inner circle in north korea. because of the sanctions come of course you cannot bring that vodka in. you have to wonder, did they think they were about to celebrate some sort of big deal with 80,000 bottles of vodka? even if world peace, that is a lot of vodka. >> tucker: that is a lot of vodka a russian level would vodka. want to play, we h...

This deal with north korea? >> harry: know and the reason i say that, i think donald trump understands this is the time to make history. this is a once a once-in-a-lifetime chance to end the korean war and actually have peace. this is the thing, tucker, we set here in 2017, let me tell you, we came close to nuclear war. i think the president will have blinders on and how to bring this home. >> tucker: interesting, thank you very much. on a terrific thing that is happening in hanoi, life images o...

Refugees applied for asylum in the u.s. than any other country this year. it is a problem for america and this hemisphere. and also the human rights problem, several people have been killed at the border. just because other countries trying to bring in food aid, this is something the u.s. has to be concerned about. anytime a country completely becomes a failed state, the way for drugs to come through >> tucker: you dont need to convince me. >> david: i have watched as the left neocons, barack ob...

>> david: and freedom of speech, freedom of association, freedom of press. those are things venezuela does not have. >> tucker: okay, but hold on, why are we pretending that democracy is a panacea? we know from experience in iraq where we toppled the dictator and impose a democracy onto -- that did not work at all and to make a run more powerful. so the talking point, you think it ought to go to come im pulling this out of the air. or no? >> david: it is like someone said democracy is the worst ...

Country? >> david: i agree with you, but regime change would probably lessen the amount of refugees. i mentioned, tons of refugees coming out of maduro venezuela. and it is only going to get worse until maduro is gone. none of the economic and policies that he put in place have helped. it has made it worse and huge inflation. the economy is dying. and so he has to go. he is no longer legitimate leader and that is why president trump recognizes the opposition -- >> tucker: he is appalling. and as...

Why should the united states bear the burden of socialism in venezuela? im completely confused. >> david: it is not the burden of socialism. it is the effort to prevent a failed state because they failed state will hurt us. when you talk about an intervention -- >> tucker: am sorry maybe i wasnt clear. why are people in the united states agitating for us to bring in refugees from venezuela? why should we have to pay the price for the insane socialist policies of nicolas maduro? i dont understand...