lee: yep! you still got a fish right in there too. anthony: oh, i see him. lee: perfect. e hoop set, set! whoa! the fish of the day nice brownie! anthony: all right! beautiful thing! that s pretty but i will not eat you today my friend. not today. anthony: for lunch a modest protein-centric repast of steak. a wagyu angus hybrid bred and raised right here on bill s ranch. bill: there s the marbling on the wagyu steak. that s what makes them good. anthony: oh, that s nice. and it s pretty damn tasty i can tell you. so you hold an opposing view is that correct, on access? david: the idea behind the stream access law that if you stay in water, it s public. i agree with that concept. bill: but where do you draw the line for private property rights? if the state were to pass a law that your restroom was public because the public needed it in your house. anthony: right. bill: but just because this isn t my backyard doesn t mean it s any less mine than your toilet is your
view here. there d be no ambiguity in my feeling if i d inherited this land and it had been in my family for generations and i looked around at it and wanted to keep it like it is. if i were to go to a bar in town and i would ask how do you feel about this issue, where would it break? what would most people say? lee: depends on if you are a fisherman or a landowner. bill: clearly divided right down the middle. david: well, i know a lot of people are going to say when i was a kid i used to be able to go hunt and fish and and i can t now if stuff s getting closed off. and i have some sympathy for that. bill: anybody that s not complying with stream access, merely has to step into the stream when he hears you coming. anthony: right. david: the spirit of it is it makes sense. bill: the spirit of it s thievery. david: well, i bill: we own it, they took it, and that s not stealing it? without compensation? david: i think it s still here. anthony: this is about being
[ helicopter whirls ] anthony: who owns this land? can anyone really own it? who gets to use it? these are big questions that cut across traditional ideological lines out here where they have real meaning, not theoretical meaning. all this belongs to one man; this guy. bill galt. bill: okay, we re about a half mile from uh the confluence of rock creek and the smith river. anthony: galt ranch is a hundred thousand acres of grazing land, mountains, cliffs, and valleys. there s also some of the best trout fishing on the planet. david: bill, the water level on the creek looks good. anthony: this is bill s friend, the author and journalist david mccumber. they disagree on land use; a major issue. remember when you could do that and still be friends?
money but we wanted somebody there patrolling and policing it. the outfitters take care of it. lee: a small stream like this can only take so much pressure. david: it really can. lee: and so we try to manage it. fish it responsibly. and if someone wants to walk all the way from the smith, five miles up to here and do it legally, i say all the more power to him. bill: no. david: that s what i m sayin . today, unlimited gets the network it deserves. verizon. (mic thuds) uh, sorry. it s unlimited without compromising reliability, on the largest, most advanced 4g lte network in america. (thud) uh. sorry, last thing. it s just $45 per line. forty. five. (cheering and applause) and that is all the microphones that i have. (vo) not just unlimited. verizon unlimited.
if i d inherited this land and it had been in my family for generations and i looked around at it and wanted to keep it like it is. if i were to go to a bar in town and i would ask how do you feel about this issue, where would it break? what would people say? lee: depends on if you are a fisherman or a landowner. bill: clearly divided right down the middle. david: well, i know a lot of people are going to say when i was a kid i used to be able to go hunt and fish and and i can t now if stuff s getting closed off. and i have some sympathy for that. bill: anybody that s not complying with what stream access, merely has to step into the stream when he hears you coming. anthony: right. david: the spirit of it is it makes sense. bill: the spirit of its thievery. david: well, i bill: we own it, they took it, and that s not stealing it? without compensation? david: i think it s still here. anthony: this is about being a good neighbor, right? bill: yeah anthony: i mean,