CSPAN2 Book TV September 27, 2014
Trying to be the father not only of the nation but of individuals and as the father he had not been able to be all those years and he leans into me and says that of course you have to be at your sons graduation and you can interview me anytime, which was true. Anytime i needed to interview him, i was able to and i was there when president clinton went to south africa and that was a time when he was having some personal issues around his actual behavior and Nelson Mandela was very he was advising...
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