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Disclosing details from it or even eluding to the details. in an e-mail to staff last night, the editor and chief defended the move writing this, publishing this document was not an easy or simple call, publishing this dossier reflects how we see the job of reporters in 2017. full disclosure, nbc universal, which is the parent company of nbc and msnbc is an investor in buzzfeed. its important to note that our news operations are independent of each other. ben smith joins me now. ben, welcome, si...

To be able to doubt that. >> i understand this and the transparency, transparency can turn into a crutch to turn into laziness. i mean, the job of the reporters is were doing our best to find truth. okay. at the end of the day, its the best truth we can have. and you are -- >> we had an unlimited -- >> you made a knowing decision to put out an untruth. >> if we -- >> or at least something you hadnt proven true yet. >> if we got that -- if there had not been a public conversation about secret doc...

Through merit have risen to the to want instead of through the nepotism and sometimes luck of politics. i wont say we all got here by luck, but i will say its interesting, itll be interesting to have some people at the top echelons of government that through a 40-year career got to the very top. i think thatll be interesting. >> senator rand paul, im leaving it there. always interesting. appreciate you talking to share your crew views. >> thank you. and happy post-festivus. buzzfeed comes unde...

Were going speak with the ed nor chief of buzzfeed which made the controversial decision to publish the dose yay in full even as buzzfeed themselves and others noted how unverified and unvetted it was. their move is ignited a media fire storm. well deal with that. thats engaged the trump transition and the kremlin say its considering a lawsuit. but folks, the toothpaste is already out of the tube. the office of the presidency has a serious credibility problem. it appears as if the incoming presi...

And protect american interests not corporate interests. the fact that buzzfeed and cnn made the decision to run with this unsubstantiated claim is a sad and pathetic attempt to get clicks. >> as far as buzzfeed, which is a failing pile of garbage, writing it, i think theyre going to suffer the consequences. they already are. >> welcome back to mpt daily, that was the president-elect as well as the president-elects white house press secretary, lashing out at buzzfeed after it published a dossie...

To influence public opinion. take a look at this exchange. this is just after the president got elected, december 15th, 2016. there they are again, lisa page texting strzok, "remind me to tell you tomorrow "the times" doing a story about the rnc hacks." strzok responding "more than they already did? i told you that quinn told me they are pulling all the stops out on some story."t he then followed up "think our sisters have become leaking like mad. scorned and worried and political, they are kick...

Hackings bad. and it shouldnt be done. but look at the things that were hacked. look at what was learned from that hacking. >> on that intelligence report that the second part of their conclusion was that vladimir putin ordered it because he aspired to help you in the election. do you accept that part of the finding? >> if putin likes donald trump, i consider that an asset, not a liability. >> trumps initial acknowledgment of u.s. intelligence findings base raised another question. which trump a...