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From the government over their lifetime, its about $400,000 deficit over ten years, thats $1.75 trillion eventually over the lifetime of immigrants. it merit-based system is a much better idea. thats the kind of system that canada and australia have. >> jenna: michael, how do you see it? >> thanks for having me back. unfortunately, i disagree. i spend my day toiling on merit-based visas, the old me so classifies the talent and business -- starting a new business narrative and having a lot of mon...