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Allowed me to be the first journalist to see mar-a-lago as it was making its debut of a club instead of just his summer -- or winter house. >> so do you remember the day e. jean called you? >> i remember that it was dinner time. i lived on 93rd street then. i had -- based on when it must have been in 1996, i had a 6-year-old and a 2 1/2-year-old. and like many phone calls at dinner time, there must have been a lot of, wait, hold on, put that down. okay, what were you saying? i was a distracted m...

She bumped her head against the wall. >> yes, and it hurt. and with his free hands he managed to penetrate her in some form. she said that and i think at this point -- >> she said he had penetrated her with his penis. >> yes yes. and at that point she said she wasnt sure how far, you know, that maybe it was -- i cant believe were having this conversation. but maybe it was some, maybe it was all. and then she managed to knee him, i think, and leave. now at that point i definitely left the dinner ...

Like a lot of people. she moves to her own drummer and i did not think she would. >> i talked to a woman who alleges that mr. trump assaulted which he of course denies. and she said that she in hindsight wishes e. jean had come forward because there is strength in numbers, but -- >> e. jean sort of thinks that these allegations are falling on deaf ears in this country. and i sort of wonder if thats true. i mean, so many people ho hum. have a ho hum reaction to her story, even though hers is the ...

Him, i think, and leave. now at that point i definitely left the dinner table because i didnt want to say what i was about to say to her, stop it, put that down, e. jean, thats rape. he raped you. no, no, it was five minutes of my life. >> you used that word to her, this is rape. >> thats the word that came to mind. thats the concept that i -- you know, it seemed like it was rape. >> when you said to her, thats rape, she still doesnt use that word. >> she hates that word. she -- i didnt even und...

Was pregnant and -- >> right. >> and i think i was pregnant when i met her. >> and you had actually -- you actually had known donald trump back in those days. >> i wouldnt say that i knew him. i would say that i interviewed him in either december of 1995 or january of 1996 because he allowed me to be the first journalist to see mar-a-lago as it was making its debut of a club instead of just his summer -- or winter house. >> so do you remember the day e. jean called you? >> i remember that it was...

Talked on the record corroborating the conversations they had, but they talked off camera to "the new york times." now one of those friends, lisa birnbach, has decided to talk with me about what happened in her first television interview. i spoke with her earlier. >> first of all, how do you know e. jean carroll? >> e. jean was the best friend of the girlfriend of my former husbands former partner. >> it rolls off the tongue. >> exactly. we met at some social gathering at this guys apartment -- ...

The next day, a lovely local anchor -- a colleague of e. jeans and she told her in person maybe the next day or the day after. also swore her to secrecy. carol had a different attitude told the episode, dont tell anybody. this guy has lawyers up the gazoo and hell sue you and deny it and make it uncomfortable for you. between my well-meaning advice and carols well-meaning advice, she took carols advice and kept quiet about it. we discuss why e. jean carroll didnt come forward when then-candida...

In the mid 1990s. >> did you think during the campaign she might come forward when other women began to tell stories they say might happen. >> i didnt think she would. shes a very self-contained person. shes -- shes an advice giver. shes not really -- shes not like a lot of people. she moves to her own drummer and i did not think she would. >> i talked to a woman who alleges that mr. trump assaulted her on a plane which he of course denies and she said that she -- in hindsight wishes that e. jea...

It was her story. apparently he told carroll martin the next day, a lovely local anchor -- a colleague of e. jeans and she told her in person maybe the next day or the day after also swore her to secrecy. carroll had a different attitude told the episode, dont tell anybody. this guy has lawyers up the gazoo and hell sue you and deny it and make it uncomfortable for you. between my well-meaning advice, she took carols advice and kept quiet about it. we discuss why e. jean carroll didnt come for...

Will make him -- and he put his shoulder against me, to hold me against the wall. and at that point i realized i was in a very difficult situation. >> she said she immediately told two close friends about the incident. both of those friends have talked on the record corroborating the conversations they had, but they talked off camera to "the new york times." now one of those friends, lisa birnbach, has decided to talk with me about what happened in her first television interview. i spoke with he...