campaign kickoff. republicans take the stage in iowa. we have to resist the politics of personality. dispense with the culture of leaving. leaving the baggage ever negativity behind. how many candidates will make the debates and will their strategies to topple the front-runner work? and caught on tape. cnn learns the justice department has audio of the former president talking about a classified document he kept after his term. are charges coming? i ll speak to ranking democrat jamie raskin, next. plus making the case. pr president biden celebrates a win. did democrats get the better deal. people are furious. key noelgtor sha londa young and ken buck coming up. hello, i m dana bash in washington where the state of the union is on the trail hiding hot. it is campaign season and republican white house hopefuls hit the trail on saturday in iowa for senator joni ernst annual roast and ride. in some cases wearing leather motorcycle vests as they try to anticipate
grand jury. but these charges are very serious. i mean, the allegations that he took all of these documents including top secret documents and then didn t return them and deliberately withheld them are very serious. i don t think any president has ever been accused of doing anything like that before. and quickly, how much does the fact that he clearly in this tape suggest that he knows that he can t as to use your words, could not de classify. how much does that play into the doj case? witell, a lot. there is the consciousness of guilt and if a person acts with consciousness of their own guilt or a consciousness of their own potential wrongdoing, that demonstrates that if they go forward, nonetheless, there is in tent. and and my understanding is that there were hundreds of documents
do you think this tape could be a smoking gun. it reflects donald trump s knowledge that he had not declassified the documents. so he knew that it was still classified and that is an additional element of importance to this recording. and can you explain why that is an additional element? well, for a while, there was a half hearted effort to claim by donald trump that he could just magically de classify telepathically or mentally and this seems to reflect his clear understanding that he had not declassified these documents and that it was still classified. so the document is missing at this point, as i understand it according to published reports. do you believe based on this and everything else that you ve seen, that the former president should be charged? kr criminally charged? that is a decision for the department of justice and for a