now. although it is very tough. so is this if it becomes just a war of attrition with russia just slamming missiles into cities, and you know, ukrainian fighters fighting valiantly and pushing back on the ground, how does that resolve? where does that go? well, there are going to be some key points. i think we re seeing some of that right now. mariupol is the perfect example. it is exactly like if you if any of your listeners want to look at the battle of grozny chechnya in december of 1994 to 95, it s exactly the same tactics and operations the russian forces used there. that s terrifying. one city of a smaller size with less people. so what we re seeing is they can t hold kyiv, kharkiv, mariupol, attempt to gain in odesa or some of the kerr
police had focused on him. first, the state called the detective who was credited with cracking the cold case. tell us your name, please. roy allen walton. retired saginaw police detective roy walton took the stand. he s the one who reopened the case in 1994, 20 years after the murder and zeroed in on ferris as a suspect. did you ask him questions about the death of cheryl miller? i did. how did he describe his relationship in that december of 1994? he indicated to me that she was just one of about five girls he was [ bleep ] at the time. and that was his compression? that was his terminology, yes. prosecutors were trying to portray ferris as cold-hearted and they would next present a parade of witnesses who said that in the years since the crime, ferris had a habit of
he s the one who reopened the case in 1994, 20 years after the murder and zeroed in on ferris as a suspect. did you ask him questions about the death of cheryl miller? i did. how did he describe his relationship in that december of 1994? he indicated to me that she was just one of about five girls he was [ bleep ] at the time. and that was his compression? that was his terminology, yes. prosecutors were trying to portray ferris as cold-hearted and they would next present a parade of witnesses who said that in the years since the crime, ferris had a habit of making odd and incriminating statements about the murder. he said that when he was making love to her, he didn t mean to do it. like those heard by ferris former roommate. he said he wanted to know how close they were getting to him. wanted to know how close they were getting to him? right. do you recall what he was talking about on the telephone? cheryl miller s murder. the jury also heard from a jail
detective roy walton took the stand. he s the one who reopened the case in 1994, 20 years after the murder and zeroed in on ferris as a suspect. did you ask him questions about the death of cheryl miller? i did. how did he describe his relationship in that december of 1994? he indicated to me that she was just one of about five girls he was [ bleep ] at the time. and that was his compression? that was his terminology, yes. prosecutors were trying to portray ferris as cold-hearted and they would next present a parade of witnesses who said that in the years since the crime, ferris had a habit of making odd and incriminating statements about the murder. he said that when he was making love to her, he didn t mean to do it. like those heard by ferris former roommate. he said he wanted to know how close they were getting to him. wanted to know how close they were getting to him? right. do you recall what he was talking about on the telephone? cheryl miller s murd
that, you know, we ve got to strike, he needed some help. and fortier looked like he would help. michael fortier was a rebel. and i think tim was attracted to that. he also shared tim s anti-government views and mcveigh has an edge over him intellectually and can manipulate him as well. in mid-december of 1994, mcveigh and fortier are traveling from the nichols farm in michigan to fortier s trailer in arizona. they make a detour to get an up-close look at their target. tim mcveigh and mike fortier took a drive through oklahoma city and looked over the murrah building and mcveigh said, that s the one. he liked it because it was uncluttered. mcveigh s focus and belief in the mission is becoming laser sharp. but by late winter 1995, nichols