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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 05:30:00

and that's part of the problem. it's how to decentralize policing. it's part of the reason why we haven't seen much wholesale change with the system. because for everyone, tour, three departments -- investigation. they require to implement a variety of different reforms and changes. for every one of those police departments another police department that's moving in the opposite direction, it's doubling down on -- it's creating crimes, that are militarizing, and giving the more 30 to cause harm. i think the big picture problem is, is the system as the whole are, worsening individual officers but agencies police department of, year after year, continue to kill people, harm people, black people at rates much higher than what people. without any accountability, without any systemic changes. annapolis, even, every 2% of cases where police were killed by the police, you get an officer who charged. lesson 1% of officers are convicted, but even now that's

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 02:11:00

with what the video fetch, think about the beginning of the encounter. when the police officer approaches the car and he snatches him out of the car. think about how he's talking to him talking at the level of violence in the voice and the inaction, that happens every single day. if communities of color, every single day. between black and brown folks, poor, folklore they are dehumanized. they need to ascend to the absolute authority of somebody who refuses to recognize that as a rights bearing citizen. and then that eventually elevates every now and then to someone dying. so, i want to say that at the heart of this, this generalize sense of disregard. that's a part of a former policing, organize state

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 02:08:00

happened that has forced saba revels of accountability on individuals. in different police departments, and has helped us -- district attorneys, and has helped us raise the specter of this issue. we can't keep having people fire tear there, or individual sort of pieces of accountability that don't get us to the systemic nature of policing. which is about control and safety. and part about -- every single day, is really deal with the fact that we need to reimagine public safety in the country. we need to deal with the incentive structures. at the root of what we're actually getting. there's incentive structures and systemic nature, and consistently time and time again protects, rewards, and makes this possible. and even when we have these collective moments, we'll get sort of someone fired. or someone going to jail.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 05:11:00

generalize disregard with a form of policing that presumes absolute authority, precisely because you represent organize state violence. so part of what we need to see, i think, alex, with regards to this horrific video footage. i don't think we about kyrie's mother, and about his side, i don't think about the loss, and public grief we need to see over, at over. with what the video fetch, think about the beginning of the encounter. when the police officer approaches the car and he snatches him out of the car. think about how he's talking to him talking at the level of violence in the voice and the inaction, that happens every single day. if communities of color, every single day. between black and brown folks, poor, folklore they are dehumanized. they need to ascend to the absolute authority of somebody who refuses to recognize that

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 02:55:00

reforming act. let's get a vote, so we can have uniformity, amongst the states so that we can then not have this disparity in policing from state to state. let's all follow in play by example. >> antonio romanucci, attorney for the tyre nichols family. i cannot imagine what the conversations are like right now. but for all of us on the outside, but we send our condolences, and our absolute deepest, sympathies to this family in this time for having to live through what is unthinkable. mr. maroney g, thank you for joining us. >> i promised to convey that, thank you, alex. >> thank. you will be right back. ll be right back

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 05:33:00

these units, and tell them there early, they have some kind of special privileges. and on the other department, the officers need to follow, it is a recipe for disaster, again, i don't want to suggest that the only problems in policing are in these units. but i do think that we see a particular concentration of those problems. >> samuelson outweigh, -- police scorecard and radley balko, author of rise of the warrior, cop killer tries asian america's police force. guys, thank you both for your time tonight. tonight president biden has weighed in on the violet footage of tyre nichols beating. like so many, i was outraged and deeply pained to see the horrific video of the bidding that resulted in tyre nichols's death. it's another painful reminder of the profound fear, trauma, pain in the exhaustion that black and brown americans experience every single day. will have reaction coming up next from a member of the memphis city council. stay with us.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 05:08:15

Alex Wagner brings years of reporting experience and insight to covering the news of the day, politics and the cultural trends shaping the United States and...

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 05:14:00

infrastructure, we are actually getting more paying for. and until we actually hold our elected officials accountable, to deal with this and they stop being afraid of the people that they're supposed to oversee, unsupervised, and hold accountable. then this will continue to happen time and time again. and i remember sitting in the obama white house, with the head of the fraternal order of police. and there was a meeting among civil rights leaders, in policing, in the head of the fraternal police said, all this talk of racial profiling is new to me. how do you even begin to have a conversation about reform, with someone that's literally gaslighting us about the very idea of something we know exists. we're not having a conversation with honest brokers. when movements are actually putting out, really clear demands, whether it's reform demands, or whether it's a bigger vision for public safety. we're not having a conversation with people who actually want to see any changes. they want to keep doing the same thing over and over again. and maybe glad a look more diversity, maybe we'll add more black and brown faces to the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 05:54:00

how are they grappling with the fact that all of the country -- was effectively the execution of the sum. ? >> he rate such a good point, the words of the mom, or that he was here for the assignment. it's so profound. it's incredible. i've watched the bell curve of the emotion, now since the beginning of until today. and i believe the only way to think, he'll amongst themselves. within themselves. snow that tyree was here for an assignment from got -- let's make this an assignment for our country. let's let washington hear us. let's rejuvenate -- reforming act. let's get a vote, so we can have uniformity, amongst the states so that we can then not have this disparity in policing from state to state. let's all follow in play by

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 02:33:00

is a recipe for disaster, again, i don't want to suggest that the only problems in policing are in these units. but i do think that we see a particular concentration of those problems. >> samuelson outweigh, -- police scorecard and radley balko, author of rise of the warrior, cop killer tries asian america's police force. guys, thank you both for your time tonight. tonight president biden has weighed in on the violet footage of tyre nichols beating. like so many, i was outraged and deeply pained to see the horrific video of the bidding that resulted in tyre nichols's death. it's another painful reminder of the profound fear, trauma, pain in the exhaustion that black and brown americans experience every single day. will have reaction coming up next from a member of the memphis city council. stay with us. ay with us

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