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i dont think anyone is counting hours anymore. >> brian williams used to call it tonnage. >> there you have it. thanks to nicolle. welcome to "the beat." im ari melber. amidst this unprecedented news week, which is why there are so many hours being slotted around, let me start with a quick question -- is there anything more to learn or say about the federal case against defendant donald trump? our team of journalists on "the beat" says the answer tonight is yes. we have been working on...

And the question is why was he lying? was he just a congenital liar? or was he trying to cover up for the president in the hope of getting a pardon involving all of those years? >> you say congenital. i will say its funny to try to give someone a fairness defense that makes them look terrible. but there are trump aides who told me, look, paul lied about everything. he would literally lie about the color of his tie, like it was his thing. that doesnt mean he also didnt lie about important things,...

Segment, the president says, quote, its a national emergency, but quote, its one that he could have done later or not at all. does that mean legally its not an emergency in your view? >> i think that the lawyers arguing for the president are going to say the court should defer to the president, the deference argument is the chief one he has going for him, and it is certainly defeated or tends to be greatly undermined by that statement. its also undermined because hes acting in direct defiance of...