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Austin, said the u.s. wants to diminish russias military power going forward so russia could not just do this again. >> we want to see russia weakened to a degree it cant do the kinds of things that it has done in invading ukraine. it has already lost a lot of military capability and a lot of its troops, quite frankly. and we want to see them not have the capability to very quickly reproduce that capability. breaking overnight, missile strikes in the lviv area. officials say russian forces str...

To what degree you were moved by your discussions with pope francis, and for democrats who might already be wondering, is it too late for joe biden to decide whether or not to run for president? and lastly, just to clarify, to what degree it hillary clintons endorsement just yesterday of a no-fly zone put her in a category of embracing a half-baked answer in syria that borders on mumbo jumbo? >> on the latter issue, on the last question that you asked, hillary clinton is not half-baked in terms ...

Starting with you, are the democrats here as you were listening to chuck schumer say, are they as kplis it in the rise to the tea party as others? >> they really havent been. there are a few politicians who have been complicit and said we need -- democrats have said we need to recruit the tee partyiers over to our side. in general, ever since the 2010 election in which rand paul was elected beat attorney general jack conway for u.s. senate, the democrats have gone on the offensive against the te...

They invade americas homes and say this is the only important case and who cares that people are getting gunned down in every city here and there. those lives arent important. the only life that is important is the one that will sell us papers. that has nothing to do with this story. >> i do think, back to this story, i do think this is significant in terms of what you pointed out. to some degree it under cuts the debate that his -- he was racially profiling trayvon martin. he was wrong to get o...

To be more important to them than avoiding tax increases and that is not true. >> i think thats a mystery. you have the rand pauls of the world. plenty of tea party saying a cut in defense is a cut and we need cuts. >> i think so. and i think that there is enough of them in the republican caucus that really have no problem with the sequester happening. i think to some degree it. the problem is, again, these kind of cuts, these are hatchet cuts. theyre not strategic scaplpals where you go in ther...

He is saying and what he believes. and you can say that about liberal politicians too. were not just picking on mitt romney. i mean, this has more to do with just as human beings being able to see somebody on the tv screen as mike barnicle says, the tv is the eyes to the soul, and saying i dont think he gets that. i dont personally thinks he gets that, ezra. >> and how he has governed. the big thing about romney is not what he said but what he did in massachusetts. but let me try to make the oth...

Our society to such a degree it will take much more to successfully fight back. my next guest exposes the seedy industry in his new book "broke usa," how the working poor became big business. gary rivlin joins me now. thanks for being on. >> hi, chris. >> this is a fantastic book. i want you to talk us through how this industry kind of went from the mom and pop pawnshop to a multibillion dollar business. >> you know you start off with old line businesses like pawnshops which is been around for c...