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conspiracy theory that an italian defense contractor uploaded software to a satellite that switched votes from trump to biden. >> members of congress angling for pardons. >> the only reason i know to ask for a pardon is because you think youve committed a crime. >> and brand-new tonight, my interview with alex holder, the documentary filmmaker who testified to the committee behind closed doors this morning and turned over hours of his footage. youre going to hear him tell me that the c...

>> he looked at me and underscored, the thing we know is youre not going to do anything. you dont even agree that the concerns that are being presented are valid, and heres someone who has a different view. so why shouldnt i do that, you know? thats how the discussion went, proceeded. >> doj officials repeatedly debunked every bogus claim he gave them. this was all about putting someone in place to carry out his bidding. astead? >> exactly. thats the presidents own words. he does not care about ...

Handel will attract more of the outside conservative tea party support. >> absolutely. fascinating stuff. chuck todd, host of "the daily rundown." thank you very much. appreciate it, my friend. >> youve got it. see you soon. a big night. small deed democracy wise. well check in with the great state of pennsylvania where there has been a really important call.