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There its also -- this i think is really shocking to people -- there is a kind of intimacy that develops between corrections officers civilian staff, and these inmates. you know in this case gene palmer was working very closely with these two inmates for a very long time. i mean richard matt moved into that block in 2009. that means that you know he got to know gene palmer over a period of many many years. and slowly you do develop levels of trust, levels of understanding, and, and most correcti...

States, its common for inmates to help do maintenance work. its common for them to do grounds keeping. so inmates often know a lot more about how a correctional facility operates than, than, you know seems to make sense to people outside. there its also -- this i think is really shocking to people -- there is a kind of intimacy that develops between corrections officers, civilian staff, and these inmates. you know, in this case, gene palmer was working very closely with these two inmates for a v...