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August 7, 2023
That president trump might publish grand jury transcripts or other sensitive information, a provocative claim when searching for headlines perhaps but one that falters under minimal scrutiny." so it seems theyre trying to downplay that because anyone who read that social media post saying "if you come after me im going to come aafter you," read that and interpreted that as a threat, as a possible example of witness intimidation. theyre saying that is hyperbolic and that is not the case. >> excep...
August 7, 2023
If these aides are found to be witnesses in the case, thats going to be a big decision that jack smith is going to make. hes going to have to be fairly selective, in choosing witnesses who are not going to display favoritism to their current boss in some ways and are going to be able to stick strictly to the facts. >> frank, over the weekend trump posted his harshest criticism of mike pence so far calling him, quote, little mike pence and calling him delusional. there are going to be trump allie...
August 7, 2023
>> were you interviewed by the special counsel? >> im not going to get into any discussions. >> would you appear as a witness if called? >> of course. >> two of the ex- presidents closest allies turned critics, his former vice president and attorney general saying over the weekend they would testify against him if called upon by the special counsel. its clear from his federal indictment that jack smiths unprecedented list of potential witnesses will be so much worse than that for trump with both...
August 7, 2023
Standard protective order. and i think this is part of the delay tactic. theyre again requesting a hearing. on something that really shouldnt require a hearing. these protective orders, the first one the government proposed was based on one they had agreed to in the mar-a-lago case. the second one was based on one that a trump-appointed judge, judge carl nichols, had actually issued in another case. so these are not things the government was making up. theyre things that are pretty standard. and...
August 7, 2023
Thats come up that you alluded to, theres no basis at all for having the case removed to a different venue. ive argued that a million times in court. a little bit of hyperbole. no basis for that either. >> jackie, theres interesting reporting by "the washington post" about the fake electors scheme. i want to read for our viewers just some of it. it reads in part, quote, the smith investigation into the electors does not appear to be over. in recent days federal prosecutors have issued a new raft...
August 7, 2023
Allegations." >> well, first of all, mary is completely right. and what were really seeing is the political weaponization of the first amendment. because were seeing it become something that is well and far beyond what it traditionally is conceived of. because look, weve talked about this before. and andrew i think made this point earlier with you, ayman, about mr. lauros laying out the defense tactics here. and it was very much to kind of suggest that there are no limits to the first amendment,...
August 7, 2023
To speak about documents that are provided in discovery that dont, at least to the extent they dont contain sensitive information, which as you were just discussing they want to divide -- define even more narrowly than the government would define that. so i think this first amendment theme is already in just -- we havent even been a week since the charges, is a major, major theme of everything theyre going to be doing to defend this case. >> yeah. and to marys point, and you read between the lin...
August 7, 2023
Order arguing to narrow the proposed order to, quote, shield only genuinely sensitive materials from public view. the request came because the prosecution felt compelled to ask judge tanya chutkan to prohibit the defendant, here in this case the former president, from publicly disclosing evidence gathered during their investigation. the protective order motion apparently not enough to deter the ex-president from making more problematic public comments throughout the weekend as we saw and even to...
August 7, 2023
Basically saying that it just covers way too much information and they want to narrowly define it specifically to mayas point about some of the sensitive information that may be revealed throughout this. >> really it seems -- and i have just gotten this, and so i have barely, barely even skimmed. ive only looked at the headings. i can tell from the headings that this is really sort of an extension of the argument that theyve been making sort of in public through the former presidents social medi...
August 5, 2023
Repeated examples where law and politics are going to come into conflict in this case. neil: but i think what some prosecutors across the board have been saying about the tone of the presidents missive whether it was a real threat or not and, of course, thats always in the eye of the beholder, is that it could have a harmful chilling effect on potential witnesses, maybe even those here. what do you think of that? >> one thing is i think the prosecutors are also showing that they themselves have ...