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On sirius xm and noah flouds. thank you for being here. brian mast proposal are not stuff that the nra is going to like. they dont get behind any of these things. a ban on assault rifle purchases, raising the minimum age, background checks for all purchases purchases, the nra has been an obstacle in this debate. what happens next? >> it is an obstacle but also a frankly -- a very easy target for people on the left. who believe that it is easier to attack the nra than it is the 55 million america...

Of the 2016 level. that says more energy here than you saw here and here. more energy in the democratic race than in the republican base made a huge difference. >> steve kornacki at the board. thanks so much. ng back with jonathan lamur and congressman hayes. congressman, i hate to do this, we want to tell our viewers chris matthews is stabbeding by live to take the next hour three minutes from now. do you think it will be some kind of marketing that some republicans, if they are watching the wi...

Something that the president has been very, very strong and very solid on. and we do hope that members of congress in the house and the senate continue to support that because you have got folks including there in arizona, you saw the rally the other night. you have saw president trump win the state by five points over hillary clinton who was going to turn arizona blue. no. in large part, based on this issue of safety and security at the border and elsewhere. brian: but the worry is if the presi...

Him when my own union doesnt back him, and his own party doesnt back him on trade but hes willing to speak the truth? >> i cant tell you because what he says -- i dont know what hell do. but what he says is that nafta was wrong. thats correct, it was wrong. the whole unfair thing that got set up. and democrats and republicans screwed the working class of this country. and the low unemployment that we have now is in large part due to the fact that some people have jobs, but they dont have the uni...

Nafta was supposed to create a mexican middle class. 25 years later the average mexican manufacturing wage is $2.49 an hour. i dont necessarily believe donald trump is a hater. i think hes a businessman. tell me why i shouldnt have voted for him when my own union didnt back him and his own party doesnt back him on trade but hes willing to speak the truth. >> on that issue i cant tell you that -- because what he says -- now, what hell do, i dont know what hell do. but what he says is that nafta w...

Tony, the juxtaposition is hard to understand. they are going to pitch the idea low in come kids, smart ones should be given better access to top universities. why dont they support school vouchers programs? >> the premise for the president, and i agree with him, educator is the great liberator, equalizer for people who want growth and opportunity in their life. when does this start? the earlier the better. these vouchers help kids get into primary schools and a better education and better colle...

Is the wall. its never changed or evolved from the first day. it was never intended to be built in areas where theres natural protection such as mountains, waeft lands, tough rivers or water. the wall will be paid for either directly or indirectly or through longer term reimbursement by mexico. then he goes on to talk about nafta. david, whats the plus-minus on this disconnect? >> its so strange. to have a president and a chief of staff publicly so disconnected. when i think kelly is channelling...

On trade deals. right now germany puts a 19% tax on an american car that get shipped to germany. china does that to ensure production in china. nafta was supposed to make a mexican middle class. mexicans make $2.97 an hour. i dont think donald trump is necessarily a hater, i think hes a businessman. tell me why i should vote for him when his own union doesnt back him, and his own party doesnt back him on trade but hes willing to speak the truth? >> i cant tell you because what he says -- i dont ...