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Fact that a according to mike pences own spokesman, the way he found out about the fact that he was deceived by general flynn was reading "the washington post." >> right. >> and finding out because of these leak. >> good point, karen. >> thank you. >> i do think there is a large middle ground between sort of this narrative that were getting about this large-scale russian conspiracy to get into the white house and saying that there are no problems. i mean, there is some media hysteria and narrati...

One state solution, two state solutions, well see what the parties agree to. what was your take on these areas where there did seem to be some disagreement? >> well, my take is with regard to the two or one-state solution, president trump seemed to be simply saying that they will accept whatever the parties negotiate and those parties are israel and palestinians. thats been the long-held position that the united states has had. so, i dont think that thats a break from the past. obviously israel ...