it was for corruption, but it was only corruption when it came to joe biden and his son. let me read you what kurt volker said about this. he said biden was executing u.s. policy at the time in what was widely understood internationally to be the right approximately see. with that, how do republicans continue then to say that joe biden deserves being investigated which is what donald trump points to as the whole point of this entire saga? look, that s been the narrative from the very beginning with this. well s always been the narrative and biden was following through with an administrative policy and whartt others were saying about ukraine. that doesn t mean there isn t something there even though the policy was one that was preferred by those in power at the time. isn t that exactly what that means? i ve had the ambassador from back then who has testified who said that joe biden was doing
race. what kind of reaction is that type of comment getting? reporter: look, i think that seth moulton presents a point that we re hearing here which is at some point the field does have to winnow. it seems like the democratic party is united on the front that they want to beat trump, they are excited about early investment in states that they may have struggled with or not had as much outreach in 2016. but that doesn t mean there isn t some descension in the race. we heard it from senator michael bennet who gave this criticism right in front of dnc chair tom perez. listen to what he said. i got to be honest. and i say it with love. the dnc process is stifling debate at a time when we need it most. we re awarding celebrity candidates with millions of twitter followers, billionaires who buy their way onto the debate stage, and candidates who have been running for president for years.
you one more question. you make the perfect point. we re having this narrow legal conversation. as someone who spent my career on the political side of this, it is a political scandal of epic proportions. if the voters had known he was trying to do a deal with russia while running for president, while russia was engaged in what some former intels call a political 9/11, it might have been a very different outcome. exactly. and i think we can extrapolate that through the whole investigation. even if robert mueller does not bring a massive conspiracy indictment that proves donald trump sat down with some russians and orchestrated the whole thing, that doesn t mean there isn t an enormous, potentially impeachable scandal here, that these people took meetings with russian folks who are were connected to an intelligence operation to manipulate our election. whether they did it wittingly or unwittingly, they were warned by the fbi and took no action. they took the trump tower meeting. the f
some former intels call a political 9/11, it might have been a very different outcome. exactly. and i think we can extrapolate that through the whole investigation. even if robert mueller does not bring a massive conspiracy indictment that proves donald trump sat down with some russians and orchestrated the whole thing, that doesn t mean there isn t an enormous, potentially impeachable scandal here, that these people took meetings with russian folks who are were connected to an intelligence operation to manipulate our election. whether they did it wittingly or unwittingly, they were warned by the fbi and took no action. they took the trump tower meeting. the fbi told them they should call the authorities if russians contacted them. they didn t do that. that is a scandal, nicolle. if it wasn t zero minus 400, would i keep you talking but i will let you go. matt apuzo, great to have you back. joyce, ken, thank you all. after the break, donald trump on fake news and what he consider
up that claim. now, that being said, that doesn t mean there isn t a whole host of problems in broward and palm beach county. they are the only two counties that have yet to finish the counting on everything but their provisional ballots. there are a lot of people, both republicans and democrats, frustrated that we don t even know how many votes may exist in either of those two counties. basically to wrap this all up, the situation here in florida remains very fluid. these are two very important seats, the senate seat and the governor s mansion which hang in the balance here. it could be a week or more before we know who the winners of these two races are. it would be stunning to have this happen just with run race but with both of them, ryan. thank you for the news. daniel is an election law expert. you heard ryan report governor scott stood there last night in front of the governor s mansion,