programs, teach people to be dependent. and look what was happening before the war on pocher t pove. americans were lifting themselves out of poverty. government continued the progress for five years and stopped it. we should have been more generous of programs. we should have didn t other things government can do to help folks. oh, gosh. you want to give up? government doesn t teach dependency. listen, i am not here saying government is perfect. government has bad things, it is i am saying there are things it does really well and things the privates do really well. the test is hey, private folks step up. i think these graphs are the test. look, can we put these up. rise of food stamp use in america. you would say this is because more people are hung rechlt try. the recession. it goes up steadily. two lines refer to one as the number of people collecting. the other is the cost. we are teaching people to be