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Security bill that doesnt include concessions. >> its not actually pragmatic. then you have him -- hes also struck a very different, i think, tone on the trail about immigration. now you have him with his donor buddy, who he and marco are bonding over immigration. and basically this guy is confiding in you like, if we get rubio in there, its going to happen. >> i talked to a half dozen republican fund raisers, contributors, big people in the republican money world who have been courted by rubio ...

Its the andimateing -- >> he said the way to do this is we do a series of small, bite-size bills, the first one has to be border security. he goes step by step. what he says is this is the more realistic, pragmatic way to do immigration reform where theres no way democrats would ever vote for just a security bill that did not include reforms. >> and hes also struck a very different tone on the trail about immigration. now youve got him with his donor buddy, who he and marco are bonding over immi...