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Campaigns. >> no, im not. >> yes, you are. thats what youre defending. >> im defending the law. millions of dollars. >> you know what, steve? it was president obama who came out and said -- you know, steve, president obama came out and said this is outrageous, this is wrong, people will be held accountable. >> steve, steve, steve -- guys, hang on a second, guys, wait a minute. >> they are wrong. >> steve, let him finish his thought and then you get to speak. back to jay. jay, finish your thought...