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And this raises a lot of questions whether the plane is flying over war- torn eastern ukraine and if policies need to change and if commercial airlines carrying innocent civilians should enter the territories. >> thats correct, julie. and the euro control who is responsible for filing a flight plane of the malaysian jet flying over the remmingion and the reason they were avoiding, and when they got shot down, they were outside of that region. and that is caught up in the web. and that is surface...

Back to you. >> and so every since we learned about flight 17 going down, so many people were surprised to learn that commercial airlines were flying over a volatile region of the world. and it happens more often than you might think and it happens in iraq every day. will this tragedy change the way the world flies? kim kirstenson and aviation analyst joins me now. it is it a fact that iraq in a war- torn country commercial airlines are flying in the air space, right? >> yes, and many regions ev...