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Fact. >> i agree but by the same token this is a different case. if there were a case of garden variety murder between two public citizens, two private citizens, that would be one thing. but this was someone who was engaged or empowered with police powers. they are a public servant. they have the ability to make a decision about someones life or death. and that person is held to a higher standard. i think you heard the superintendent say that yesterday. >> thanks to both of you. still to come in...