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Not just republicans in house and the senate on the war path its not just republicans in the house and senate on the warpath against obamacare. now some states have a new plan to take down obamacare. whats the plan? karl rove joins us. evening, sir. >> evening, how are you? >> im very well. so tell me, what is the plan that some states, obviously not all the states, have to in some way impede or avoid obamacare? >> well, everybody, i think, a lot of people know about the previous efforts by st...

>> the president is never going to sign a bill that defunds obamacare. >> heres what i think should happen. the house of representatives should pass a continuing resolution that funds the federal government in its entirety, every aspect of the federal government, except obamacare, and it should explicitly defund obamacare. president obama and harry reid will scream that the learns are threatening to shut down obamacare. we need to stand up and win the argument. we have to stand up and say no, we...

Age groups, only 10% of 18-24 year-olds saying theyre very familiar. 55 and over, that age group says 18% of them say theyre very familiar as well. the president was talking college affordability. he did bring up health care to this crowd of college students earlier in the context of what you were talking about, charging republicans want to shut down the government by connecting it to health care reform. take a listen. >> weve seen a faction of republicans in congress suggest that maybe america ...

Is shut down obamacare and shut down obamacare, then the next logical step is people will say then shut down the government. if thats what you want to do, then lets take it tots farthest extreme of so it is a very interesting dynamic thats happening in the republican party right now. for me, i happen to love watching it. you know, peoples lives are at stake. >> whats interesting about the two is it seem to be my colleague, steve kornacki has pointed out almost a litmus test in material of whethe...

Show." the push back against historic health care reform, you know it really has no boundaries, theyre going to do anything. republican governors are tripping all over one another trying to deny affordable health care to people in their states. >> were not going to implement obamacare in florida. were not going to expand medicaid because were going to dethe right thing. >> theyre going to do the right thing, ignore who needs help. florida governor rick scott is saying no to those who need medica...

>> why not then if you like some of the provisions in the affordable care act, why not work with it rather than appeal the whole thing? >> this has to be ripped out by its roots. this is government taking over the entire health insurance industry. >> so all those people who have pre-existing conditions, you say were going to get rid of this and at some point well deal with it. >> lirch, -- listen, ive already outlined that we believe theres a better way to provide access to high quality health i...

Way to provide access to high quality health insurance in a different way than we have in obamacare. >> really, a better way? common sense? thats a better way? come on, mr. boehner. john boehner has been in charge of the house for almost two years. there has been no committee meetings about replacing the health care law. the house has not drafted any replacement legislation protecting the uninsured in this country. they have not acted because they dont care. congressman paul ryan had no answers ...

He sent his advisers out to talk to reporters and he said we have a brand new issue with the most gigantic tax increase in history. it was the romney team that started it or went along with sarah palin, i should say, and they were happy to talk about it like this for 24 hours and then someone was like, uh-oh, it reminds me of that old school yard saying, im rubber and youre glue. were finding on the issue of health care is president obama is rubber and mitt romney is glu. anything that is said a...

They took turned soaking the affordable care act in lighter fluid and then burned all 2700 pages of it. the tea party, they know a few things about book burning? i dont know, just asking. lets turn to our panel tonight. for more, lets go to democratic strategist keeve boykin, essay kup, and also errol louis. theres a lot inside city hall of late. essay, ill go to you first. what is this going to do for the tea party? is this the steroid, the energy they were looking for to get back after it? >> ...

Top republican leaders are finally revealing what the health care debate in the country is all about. for republicans, health care is a privilege. and if you cant afford it, well, youre just out of luck. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell was asked on safe haven fox news on sunday, you know, what are you going to do with the uninsured if you guys go out and you repeal the health care law? >> one of the keys to obama care is it will extent insurance access to 30 million people who are now u...