knew at least back then that he had come from another police department, correct? i think he worked at two previous agency and he was an explorer. okay. now let s go back to when you three arrived at the white car. we ve already said where you were located. officer lucky was at the driver s door, is that right? yes. he would have been standing behind the post between the driver s door and the rear passenger door. what do you mean by, that standing behind the post? he wouldn t have been directly in front of the door because this would be an unsafe approach. and was this a warm day? was the window down, do you remember? i don t know if the window was down or not. okay. but in any event, where were you standing again? at the left rear corner. and did you hear what officer lucky said? yes. i heard him to ask the driver to step out of the vehicle a couple of times. and did the driver step out
least back then he had come from another police department? yes, i think he worked at two previous agencies and he was an explorer. ok. let s go back to when you three arrived at the white car. we ve already said where you re located. officer lucky was at the driver s door, is that right? yes, he would have been standing behind this post between the driver s door and the rear passenger door. what do you mean by that? standing behind the post? he wasn t directly in front of the door, that would be an unsafe approach. was there a warm day? was the window down, do you remember? i don t know if the window was down or not. ok. in any event, where were you standing again? at the left rear corner. and did you hear what officer lucky said? yes, i heard him ask the driver to step out of the vehicle. a couple of times. and did the driver step out
and did the driver step out of the vehicle finally? finally he asked officer lucky a couple of times what was going on and officer lucky said he would explain to him. when he got out of the car? yes. did the driver get out of the car? yes. what do you remember happening next? officer lucky had him turn around and i think he was still asking what was going on who s he ? the driver. go ahead. and sergeant johnson and lucky told him he was under arrest. and i told him he had a warrant. okay. so who said he was under arrest first? sergeant johnson, i believe. and sergeant johnson testified here, do you remember that? yes. and after he said that, did officer lucky say he s under arrest too? yes. and you heard that?
0 where s that at? he s currently stationed in florida. and your other son, where is he at? he s in college in north dakota. are they going to be home for the holidays? yes, they will. is your mother in the courtroom? yes. and your sister? no, she s not. but is your brother in the courtroom. yes, he is. and besides your brother and your mother, your father is deceased? yes. and do you have any other siblings? i have another sister and a brother. what do they do you know what their ages are? my oldest sister is in her 50s and my other brother is in his 50s also. my sister works for a medical device company my oldest brother works for a parking company and my other brother works for retail. . going back to when you were a youngster, where do you go to elementary school? immaculate conception. where is that? columbia heights. did you live that neighborhood? yes, i did. while you were going to that school did you have a police officer