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Forward with the other eight employees. weve asked a number of questions about those hard drives. we havent gotten the answers yet, but we want every one of those hard drives and nothing less will be acceptable. >> but you keep saying that and youre not getting them. isnt it fair to say that this may well be one more thing that the administration gets away with and theyre doing it the way they want to do it? >> well, that is the fight were having right now. and i can tell you, treasury, for inst...

That failed this year and doesnt count. >> so we dont know where those hard drives are right now? >> we do not know where those are. well gv you a full -- >> thats unbelievable to me that you dont have that information. >> unbelievable, i agree. with me, chief counsel for the american center for law and justice. jay listen, as a prosecutor, im thinking destruction of evidence. have you taken this to the justice department? >> well, weve notified them immediately when this started. but judge, its...

Are missing, too? >> yes. >> crazy. >> at least their e-mails are missing as of right now. the government does not know where their hard drives actually are. but judge, there is an e-mail from lois lerner to the chief of staff where she is requesting, she said she had a discussion with the chief of staff for the irs. she said she had a discussion with the department of justice and in that discussioning they talked about quote -- and youre a prosecutor -- piecing together criminal case against gr...

Their love for meeks, calling this the best-looking mug shot theyve ever seen. he may be shot, but this bad boy is really bad. the police call him one of the most violent criminals in the stockton area. now, i have no problem with people liking photos on facebook. but lets not get carried away here. this guy is a for-good violent dirt bag. and since im a little jealous of all the attention this guy is getting, i decided to post my own mug shot. let me know if you like it. i think i look pretty g...

Requirements a 01 c organizations these organizations are not supposed to be doing the types of things they are doing on both sides of the aisle. thats the root of the problem. paul ryan wants to yell at somebody and take some action. he should create a new 501 c 4 organization. >> also part of the problem taking the fifth. she is egg that the fifth. we cant get the emails. the servers are gone. the people she sent emails to, those hard drives are gone. everything is gone. where is the transpare...

After their computer hard drives were recycled. something the agency has known since february. were back with dan henninger, colin leafy and james freeman. colin, what do you make of the explanation from the irs that these e-mails were lost because the, quote, computer crashed, unquote. >> i mean, its completely implausible, right? by the way, we now know computer hard drives can be are recovered from fires. theres all kinds of techniques now on that sort of recovery. but the bigger issue here t...

When you want to get to the e-mails to find out how many tea party, conservative and liberal groups were targeted? >> first of all, the hope and change president said that he would have transparency and accountability. you cant have accountability without transparency. and they act like these e-mails were looking for the malaysian plane. its not rocket science, folks. in this day and age, if you delete a file, you can find it. even if hard drives are destroyed, you will be able to find it. for t...

We have the very latest on the fallout. >> well, the irs commissioner played defense on friday telling congressional lawmakers the agency is not at fault for ex-official lois lerners hard drive crashing before getting recycled and destroyed. backups he says were only kept for six months. >> i dont think an apology is owed. not a single e-mail has been lost since the start of this investigation. every e-mail has been preserved that we have. >> and while the agency says hard drives belonging to se...

And means committee has been investigating claims that irs official lois lerner and other irs staff targeted tea party and other affiliated groups before the 2012 election. earlier this week, irs officials told the committee that because of the computer crash, a batch of e-mails dating back to 2011 were lost. republicans arent buying it. committee chairman dave camp and charles boostny wrote in a press release, surprise, surprise, a few computers crashed, plot lines in hollywood are more believa...

And now they disappeared. >> what is the latest elizabeth? >> reporter: the irs xhugzer told congressional law makers that the agencies not guilty. according to him the hard drive crashed and back up e-mails only kept to six months and reported to it an report by the inspecter general concluded while aems employees acted inappropriate it was not political. ni dont think an apology is owed. >> agencies say hard drives to other staffer ares crashed. republicans dismissed the explanation. >> they h...