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You know, this is a double standard. and its just incredible that the irs commissioner can defend this and say, well, we have prose and we dont have to keep these e-mails, but yet an individual has to keep seven years worth of documentation? this is just not the right way to approach this. but i can tell you, it doesnt pass the smell test. >> are you expecting to go to treasury? tim geithner was running treasury. doesnt treasury oversee the irs? >> well, the treasury has a role. we are going to ...

This is why i think its a big gamble for her to somehow claim theyve been lost in cyberspace. >> it is extraordinary that theyre saying all of this now. because it makes you feel like this is bigger than we thought. joef treasury oversees irs. i wonder if theres a connection there. >> well, this is the exact question, maria. is it to treasury? we know its to the political appointee in the treasury. the council that was appointed by the president. theres belief that this went all the way to the w...

Forward with the other eight employees. weve asked a number of questions about those hard drives. we havent gotten the answers yet, but we want every one of those hard drives and nothing less will be acceptable. >> but you keep saying that and youre not getting them. isnt it fair to say that this may well be one more thing that the administration gets away with and theyre doing it the way they want to do it? >> well, that is the fight were having right now. and i can tell you, treasury, for inst...