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What they did to chris christie in new jersey? >> oh, again, i think theres no doubt this is one of those where the media jumps on this, some on the left spin this. you get our detractors trying to claim theres something more than there is. if youre just reading this for the first time you might think theres something there without knowing that the courts already looked at this. >> well, he clearly admits that theres potentially a perception problem here. now this isnt the first time a document ...

Very clearly in an effort to put this controversy to rest, echoing what the president has said, that there is no there there. that the cia, the leaders at the cia, very much agreed with the assessment of the state department and the white house that they were content that the final talking points were not scrubbed down in any way. that they believe that those did accurately nonstra lly no lly d assessment of what took place at that time on september 11th of 2012 at the mbenbenghazi diplom facili...

Was put together. so its a very thorough attempt to get around the spots where these explosions went off and gather as much information as they can of all sorts of materials. >> nbcs pete williams, thanks so much. joining us now in new york, michael leiter, an nbc news terrorism expert and former director of the national counterterrorism center. with us from boston, kevin cullen, columnist with "the boston globe." michael, you and i were just talking about, just with the volume of forensic evi...