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is just declare victory, right? he is going to declare victory. but that doesnt mean hes a winner. hes just going to say hes the winner. >> on the eve of his trial, new audio of steve bannon, laying out trumps 2020 plans. plus, as the senate tries to trump proof american democracy, will it be enough? were gonna get insight on that, one of in starts right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good evening from new york. i am alicia menendez, in for chris hayes. and we have some major new developments ton...

Know has those facts. so, its one of those things that is out there. its perhaps significant. maybe the fbi has more facts. and so, i would encourage people really to look at what we do know, rather than focusing in on the few details coming up right now, that we dont know the specifics of. >> the donut versus the hall as you said. donald ayer, thank you so much for being with us. coming up, as steve bannon prepares to go to trial next week, new leaked audio from the former trump advisor shows h...