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>> like i said, its-- the travel money they want to take the federal money and they dont have to participate in the federal programs and they dont have to take the federal money. >> mike: one thing im convinced of, you will not improve education if you dont raise the standards. you have to measure them and accountability. if you have bad teachers they get fired just like-- >> if you fail you get fired. the national education association, they keep-- . keep having you on, ill got fired. >> and ea...