many in their 20s. many in their 20s. and these places are all over. i ve been in many myself. the people are upbeat. they re the artists and musicians of america, so it s ally hard to see this, but the fire codes are there for a reason. fire can go over these shallow walls. there s no fire breaks. there s no stairways. there s no smoke alarms or sprinklers. it really becomes a death trap. if you re living in my kind of place, you have to make sure at a minimum there s more than one exit. on that point, as we look at one of the pictures from two nighs ago, this is a sinlder block structure with steel windows and class, and the question to you as an expert of this type of stuff, is it seems that they re trapped. there s no way to break through walls at least if you re a firefighter, if it s made of
hour way. we would take those first witnesses you had on two key witnesses talking about what we re searching for, the early fire. we re always looking for witnesses to early fire, the videos that show us early fire and the first responding engine company to tell us where first fire was because we want to get back to the area of origin of the fire to pinpoint the point of origin of fire and then determine the cause of the fire. those witnesses talked about early fire. get the fire extinguisher and trying to get it down. that s important. that s why they re going slowly. there were reports that the fire extinguishers were there, did not help. tell me one thing we should be watching because we ll get more information at 5:00. what s the one thing you re looking for that would tell us more of this story? well, just really right now it s juls recovery of the victims. let s get that number, get these families notified. that s overall the most
important thing for everybody there, and then it will slow down a little bit and take about a week to get in and get all that stuff out to see if they can determine the cause, the origin of the fire. jim kavanagh, thanks so much. thanks, richard. up next, the latest fallout from president-elect trump s controversial phone call with the leader of taiwan and his search for secretary of state. when you find something worth waiting for, we ll help you invest to protect it for the future. financial guidance while you re mastering life. from chase, so you can. what s going on? oh hey! that s it? yeah.