hour way. we would take those first witnesses -- you had on two key witnesses talking about what we're searching for, the early fire. we're always looking for witnesses to early fire, the videos that show us early fire and the first responding engine company to tell us where first fire was because we want to get back to the area of origin of the fire to pinpoint the point of origin of fire and then determine the cause of the fire. those witnesses talked about early fire. get the fire extinguisher and trying to get it down. that's important. >> that's why they're going slowly. there were reports that the fire extinguishers were there, did not help. tell me one thing we should be watching because we'll get more information at 5:00. what's the one thing you're looking for that would tell us more of this story? >> well, just really right now it's juls recovery of the victims. let's get that number, get these families notified. that's overall the most