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>> does he have a credibility advantage when it comes to donald trump? i dont think he has a credibility problem, because hes not working for the media, right, hes working for his client. if he doesnt think its an van stageo ed advantageous to his client, they have all these court hearings going forward, well find out whether he has a credibility problem closer to the end of this process than at the beginning. yesterday -- i have spoken to a number of lawyers about his strategy, particularly his...

>> it was structured almost id dentdically. >> what does he need to do to at least be effective in his argument here? >> i dont think he can be particularly effective. i think the interesting thing about this is this is something that riles the base. its unclear to me, its clearly affordable care act is not popular as a piece of legislation, even though its provisions are. but its also clear to me that voters care either way. were having this discussion about this abject piece of legislation tha...