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Ed.msnbc.com. ill bring you the results later on in the show. joining me now is joe conway the president of the madison firefighters union. joe, good to have you with us tonight here on the ed show. i appreciate your time. i know it has been a very stressful day there in madison. what actions are you and your union taking against scott walker tonight? >> a tough day for the working middle class in wisconsin, ed. just like governor walker has created these tools for this budget shortfall that he ...

Tell your wisconsinite folks exactly how you feel about the situation right now. >> well, ed, i think that its absolutely shameful what the republicans have done in the state senate, what theyre going to do in the state assembly tomorrow. you know, it really does take away from our democratic process in wisconsin. this bill, they were so desperate to strip away 50 years of worker rights, that they had to go and break the open meetings law, according to the republican attorney general. they voted...

Broad, ed. the criteria, you know, is so broad, so vague, i mean, from my office, i can see the governors office. this stuff is so vague that if i sneeze loud enough, that could qualify me to be replaced basically. these triggers are the broadest -- it just blows a hole in the previous lawç where it s very specific. you had to really be in bankruptcy for the state to take over. now, if you have a bbb credit rating, that could trigger an efm. if you have a deficit in any city fund, this isnt a ...

Wisconsinites that have expressed their views. its a sad day for wisconsin. im kind of ashamed that this has happened. and i dont know what the governor will do next. >> yeah, ed, i think theres people who are very disheartened right now. and have a lot of anger. but i think that what comes of this, they may have won this battle today, but i think that he just awoke a sleeping middle class that wasnt sure if there was a difference between the democratic party and the republican party. and now to...

To find a compromise and solution thats not based on a harsh ideology, i think thats where were going to get solutions. >> wisconsin democratic senator chris larson. thank you very much for joining me. >> thank you. >> joining me now, ed schultz, host of "the ed show." msnbc expert on all things wisconsin. ed, these e-mails. obviously the governor is not only willing to negotiate, he has negotiated. i dont get this. this is nothing like anything ive ever seen before. how does he then go back on ...

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>> in some cases you have the public employees that theres almost no bargaining, weve given them up the machine gun but rather its at heads of the local officials and wait until they have their hands ties. >> what is this glenn beck talk? thats how glenn beck talks. >> when john boehner back slides, he really back slides. >> what amazes me about this whole thing, its probably been a half a century or more before ed issue of collective bargaining was front and center in a presidential campaign. b...

Employees in the country, including myself. my own take home pays going to drop 9%, 10%. nothing else we can do other than lay off massive numbers of teachers and public employees, and we dont want to do that. >> with that said, ed what do you believe will happen next? will this spread further than the states i listed? >> well, that senator growthman is telling you, my way or the highway. hes not saying the top 2% have to pay more. hes not willing to negotiate. he put out 9%, thats the way its g...

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