outrage. she s human. she s going to hear about it. she may be outraged herself, or not. i don t want judges necessarily to federal judges are supposed to be impervious to public opinion in that way. i think she ll judge manafort based on, you know, him and these facts and what she sees in the case and him as a person. but not necessarily because of the public outcry. in your reporting, just looking at the way trump world is viewing what happened with judge ellis and manafort simpun confident are they that manafort will kind of get aawith a lot of it and maybe get a pardon as a reward? he s already gotten away with a lot of it in some way. there are so many secrets paul manafort will go to jail with just by virtue of the fact that
i wonder if that impacts the judge. he couldn t have done better unless he got probation from judge ellis. i wonder if in your view the judge will react to the spasm of public outrage over the brief sentence and manafort living a blameless life and the fact that his attorneys had the cheek for the sentences to run concurrently and ask for them to impose it on the next judge. and that manafort never apologized or took responsibility in the courtroom with ellis. it will be interesting to see what he does with judge jackson. i hope judge jackson does not take into account the public reaction in her sentence. that s, frankly, not really something a judge should do. she has more than enough in her menu of things to look at to sentence paul manafort to a high sentence he deserves without being influenced by public
to one of the burglars, james mccord who got just four months. what would be the reasonable expectation of the sentence maufpaul manafort may get in the second round of sentencing? paul manafort is facing sentencing on two different conspiracy counts each carrying a maximum of five years. judge jackson could give him up to ten years. she cannot go above that. that s different from the guidelines. that s a statutory maximum. will she give that much time? hard to say. the other discretion she has is whatever sentence she imposes she can make all of it, some or none of it run consecutive to what manafort got from judge ellis, meaning on top of it. or in parallel with it. now, look, here s the thing. as we all know, judge ellis
one. there is absolutely no evidence that paul manafort was involved with any collusion with any government official from russia. donald trump s former campaign manager paul manafort returns to a d.c. courtroom wednesday and things could go differently than they did last week in virginia. manafort will come face to face with judge amy berman jackson who unlike judge ellis has been anything but sympathetic to him. manafort faces up to ten years in prison. it s a business week ahead for many donald trump associates and for judge jackson. on thursday, roger stone returns to her courtroom for an appearance on the gag order she imposed on him. joining me now, natasha bertrand from the atlantic and mimi rocka, former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. manafort is charged with a lot. there is a lot going on in his life. let s remind folks of what he s been accused of.
whatever reason, i was very honored by it, also made the statement that this had nothing to do with collusion with russia. so keep it going. let s go. keep the hoax going. just a hoax. that s twice now in one day trump said something the judge never said. trump manafort was sentenced yesterday for committing tax and bank fraud. charges completely unrelated to the russian collusion. yet trump seemed intent on dishonestly representing what the judge said. ellis didn t say there was no collusion. referring to the fraud case he said manafort is not before the court for any allegation that he colluded with the russian government. in other words, manafort s sentencing on charges of fraud fraud doesn t clear the president of the alleges that his campaign colluded with russia. i m joined by natasha bertrand,