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Is anyone at the irs really being held accountable? forbes media chairman and editor-in-chief steve forbes joins us. >> good to see you, greta. >> greta: how do we make sure we have real action to clean things up? >> i think ultimately the only way, yes, youll have more congressional investigations, which have been very educational, but ultimately i think we need a special prosecutor, who has subpoena powers, the powers to call grand juries, who can do a systemic investigation, who can start fro...

We have to have that kind of special prosecutor today. >> greta: if it furnishe turns t the president had nothing to do with this, no knowledge, totally confined within the irs, does he still have responsibility being the head of the country? >> absolutely. he set the tone for it back in 2010, when he pointed out these organizations, sometimes by name, hinting that theyre controlled by foreign entities. then you have eight to ten senators sending letters to the irs, demanding investigations, thr...

The first stage is based on the facts we have now to determine who can no longer hold a position of trust within the irs. the second stage, which i know is where youre going, is to determine whether there was any underlying malfeasance or issues that would warrant dismissal. well follow the facts where they take us. we do not have that completed review -- >> if you dont know theres underlying malfeasance, why was somebody asked to resign? >> because it was determined they could no longer hold a ...

Attorney general, what will that -- why are you so much opposed to that? lets carve out this situation with james rosen. why dont you want him to be attorney general? >> i think he has a credibility problem. before i even got to congress, the congress voted to hold him in contempt for his stonewalling with fast and furious. you had about 20 democrats who supported holding holder in contempt. it wasnt as if it was a purely partisan thing. then with all his testimony in front of our committee abou...

>> i think its deeper and deeper. when you learn the irs commissioner visit the white house 157 times, more than the secretary-general, the secretary of state, combined, and you have to ask the question, what were they going there for? now apparently theres several employees saying flatly, olook, i got my orders directly from washington. theyve named a person. im sure that person is now going to be brought in and deposed under oath. that person will be asked who where are you reporting to? if yo...

>> well, welcome to washington. >> the committee will be in order. ryan has the time. >> we heard gingrich, we heard bush. >> mr. chairman -- >> we had the former irs commissioner shulman who knew about political targeting long before congress was told, implying the organizations were responsibling for the targeting because they chose to apply for tax exempt status. so youre to blame, i guess, is the message here. >> my personal favorite was question number 33, which relation to protests asked f...

Part of where the internal revenue service is damaging to our belief in government is if you have irs agents who ask christian groups, you know, what were you saying in your prayers, asking an 83-year-old woman, what were the conversations in your friday morning coffee group, why would you trust an element of the very same government with enormous secret data about americans. >> greta: there was a blistering editorial taking president obama apart on promised transparency and accountability, and ...

News that the irs has been targeting conservative groups. this week conservative groups finally getting their turn, telling congress about the irs putting a giant targets on thyir backs. >> im not here as a serf, begging my lord for mercy. im a born free american woman, wife, mother and citizen. im telling my government that youve forgotten your place. >> in march of 2012, the confidential portions of our 990 tax returns, including schedule b, our list of major donors and their home addresses, a...

Justice. is that correct? >> thats correct. >> most stunningly, on may 3rd of this year, in follow-up to a privacy act request, where we asked for the specific information, that federal law allows us to request when theres been an investigation into the disclosure of our tax return, the inspector generals office told us that the identity of the source of this felony against us, was it self-protected tax return information that they could not disclose to us. i ask you to think about the irony of ...

501(c)(3) applicant in 25 years of making grants. >> im totally outraged by the accusation that were somehow subsidized by the taxpayers. people making donations to the c4 organization, that is not a tax deductible amount. were not getting any amount from the taxpayers. what were saying is, hey, if we want to have a group, people pay dues or make a donation that at the end of the year, or whatever, that were not subject to pay taxes on that money again, which has already been taxed when the pers...