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Mcdougals story would have been National Enquirer gold, and his decision not to run it was purely to help donald trump. Joining me now, nbcs Vaughn Hillyard outside the courthouse, former federal prosecutor paul butler is back with me. Former assistant new York Attorney general Tristan Snell is in studio, and Jeremy Soland, criminal Defense Attorney and former manhattan prosecutor. Im going to start with you because youre a Defense Attorney and youre new to this table. Its a challenge, right, no...

The president is certainly going to try to spin this in some sort of victory. theyll stress that this structure is fortified and the wall will be improved and another chance to find a way to secure money for this wall, perhaps still, an act of emergency. so what you can do at some point, hes going to have to go there to the white house and it will be hard for him to do it. hes accepting a defeat here. there is no question. >> kristin walker. this also comes on a day where the president is facing...

Puncture-proof gloves, because were taking a look at how swollen the hand on the right can be, it sounds pretty painful, too. >> yes. there are no known fatalities from a lions fish sting but some who have been stung say they wish they would have died. it can be very painful, and there are complicating effects, and you never know how youre going to react. jane: i literally have 15 seconds but i understand a cook book is in the works if you do end up finding enough to kill, theyre delicious? >> o...