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This? is there a point it back fires on them? >> you cant get ahead of all of the facts. i think this week is a different week. it was a very different week in terms of the narrative of the story. we didnt know last week that there was actual black-and-white e-mail prove that the administration was willing and open and wanted to get information and dirt on hillary clinton and they didnt care where it came from. it turns out it came from the russians at a time when they were interfering with our ...

Wasnt clear, she says she either showed it to them or may have left it there. she said it was a two-page document. theres mention it was a folder and it was left there. its not clear. >> theres a lot that isnt clear. but have you drawn conclusions or significant things to consider when you think about this meeting? >> absolutely. this meeting may be a game changer in the russia investigation. it goes back to the e-mails that came out by rob goldsteone to - hes been in business with the trump fam...

Russian lobbyist was also there. what was his role and what are we learning of it now? joining me, ken delaynian. do we finally know who was in the room during the meeting? >> despite our best efforts, we dont. that says a lot about how this story has evolved. the trump team has had a week to clarify that. don junior went on television and said he told us everything about the meeting. as of last night, were hearing about a translator and another unnamed person in the room. were still trying to g...

Committee. they may have had a document that they either left or showed to the trump team. the trump team didnt think very much of this information, didnt think it was significant. >> do we know what was in this document? >> we have an idea that it had to do with allegations about a hedge fund manager pouring money into the democratic national committee. its not even clear the allegations were these were legal contributions. it doesnt seem to have amounted to much, alex. interestingly, current a...

I think if theres no action being taken, i think it has a big effect on what were able to do in congress. i want to empower our intelligence agents. its very important. its difficult to make that case to the american people if that information is then being used for domestic political warfare. >> very true point, congressman. are you pushing chairman gowdy who has independent subpoena aukt authority to subpoena the comey memos? >> were working on it. you remember jason chaffetz, when he was chai...

Mueller has a huge reputation and its growing. every time theres a new story, it grows in scope. is there going to be a second department of justice down the street that cant answer to the attorney general? >> i was told mueller wants his team to be nimble. the last count i had was 15 attorneys which is not enormous. mueller, as you probably know -- >> i dont know him, but know his reputation. >> sterling, straight ahead, former marine, gave up private practice in a law firm to be a homicide pro...

The at least perceived deception explaining what happened, which do you think is worse here? >> theyre both bad. i dont know which one is worse. its unfortunate the meeting took place. it was a nothing meeting as such but nonetheless, it didnt look good and it certainly compromised this administration going forward, to have met with those folks. but coming clean, i think whats really important is coming clean when you have information, especially if you want to divulge information about a meetin...

>> 30 seconds, do you think comey violated the law? >> i think he may well have. certainly treating those memos as his personal property rather than government records, and then taking them away, this is the same type of thing that got hillary clinton in trouble on her e-mails. those were government archive records. there are rules about how you dispose of government records. whether there was classified information in them or not is more questionable. if there was, then he clearly violated that...

Trump campaign. and they find out there are districts in michigan and pennsylvania where hillarys support is weak. what happens with that information? do they give that to the russians so the russian spamming and all their bots and sending out negative information in pennsylvania about hillary clinton to specific people. did that happen because the trump campaign told them where they were weak? if it did, thats something of value that we need to know about. but probably this two-page memo that t...

Born in russia, did a stint in the soviet union, came to the u.s., became an american citizen and lobbied in the shadows in corporate and legal fights, sometimes on causes near and dear to the putin government. one is an anti sanctions effort hes been doing with veselnitskaya. >> with the knowledge of him, what do we know in terms of details of the meeting, what did he bring to the meeting. well, veselnitskaya gave an exclusive interview last week and laid out her version of the meeting. he adde...