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i will explain what that meant. also, another trump aid headed to prison. a day to turn himself in but we have that story later this hour and why it matters. that bannon will join convicted felon peter navarro in prison but that is coming up plus a report on president biden marking the important d-day anniversary. why is it important to the president, to our nation and some of the threats and issues we face now. as i mentioned, by the end of this hour, the return of kermit the frog. wh...

Discuss their whole advocacy and their explanations of those january 6th plans to overturn trumps loss but they touched on what navarro told me on this program. >> no. when youre on msnbc -- by the way, im very proud -- melbourne is a trial lawyer. that is when you have to go back -- you have to get up in his face and refuted. trying to get harvard faculty lamp it no, we are not reasonable men. we are unreasonable. unreasonable men change history. we are unreasonable this is not some debate. >> ...

Lover, the dreamer and me ♪ >> we are joined now by ron howard, the legendary director, filmmaker and producer he has got a new project out. jim henson: idea man. kermit, the muppets, summit -- sesame street and a whole lot more. thanks for being here. >> a pleasure. >> you tell jim hensons story. we learned that some of what he was making was not necessarily only going to be designed for kids. >> most of it did in the beginning. >> although, boy it. >> its interesting, he wasnt interested in ...

Kids, so kids might have a little piece of it as they grow up? >> i think it means so much. and of course, when sesame street came along, it was revolutionary because oh, there were some terrific shows and captain kangaroo and romper room and things like that that were aimed at kids and trying to sort of, you know, inspire them to play and be thoughtful and those kinds of things. but they were super gentle. they skewed very young. and when they got jim henson involved with sesame street, here wa...

Played with puppets as a kid, but that was a way in to the local television station. he took it, created his own puppets. and you know, he was a very introverted guy. he became an extrovert when he had a puppet on his hand. he was funny, satirical, but really accessible, and he just grew his talent. you know, with puppetry, and he was also very experimental and trying to push the boundaries of what movies could be as well. >> i watched the doc last night, and one thing that comes through is this...

People, makes them feel better about themselves. i think were the longest partnership in hollywood history, actually. its been almost like 40 years. >> do you think about it that way, that youre not just doing your work, which has some talent or technical aspect, but he says youre inflating, almost belarging people? >> im just fascinated by people. and its what fascinated me about jim henson and his journey along with his wife and his family and his collaborators. it can be action, comedy, fanta...

It, but he knew it was effective, through humor, through the puppets, through fantasy. that you could teach learning ideas. you could sell learning to kids. and that was, you know, sort sof his pitch. what i didnt realize is not only did he bring the puppets but he directed so many of those great short films, the counting and the letters and all that stuff, its all using his experimental cinematic style that he was trying to make for his own avant-garde movies, and again, it was all in the effor...

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Counts. keep all of that in mind as you consider what are actually unusual partisan attacks. >> we have rogue prosecutors around the country that have drug president trump through this process because of who he has been there will be a reckoning on november 5th. >> this case was rigged from the very beginning. what happened in new york if you applied across all 50 states would be the definition of fascism. >> this is most outrageous travesty i have ever seen. >> this is a justice system that hun...