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Strategic in leaking material to get the damage out early. grand jury cases leaks always come from the defense. never from prosecutors. >> you think they maybe getting it out early before the midterm? so the damage is already been done. this is baked into the cake. >> well, the damage theyre worried about is to themselves and interfering in whatever deal cohen is going to try to make. they may not need cohen to make cases. thats a thing we dont know. >> so walter, today we learned that long time...