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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111215:12:27:00

to them, who comes to them from a very, very large extent. i think there are a lot of ways yo do cross-party analysis that isn t just one way. ronald reagan was the least likely guy that was going to get the reagan democrats from his ideological position. bush was the most likely to get those democrats, bush could never get the democrats because bush was an elitist. reagan knew how to talk to them, newt knows how to talk to them. he will be able to do better i feel more comfortable campaigning for him in the suburbs, which is where i think i know how to campaign the best, and selling him in the suburbs to reagan democrats than i do mitt romney. bill bennett, what do you think about that? rudy to my right, this is a fun place to be. it s interesting. sure, the positions have changed. and he doesn t romney doesn t fire up the base. newt s positions changed some too, and one worries about newt is where he will be when the

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111215:12:25:00

country, then he becomes anti-mandate and takes that page out of his book and republishes the book. i can go on and on. what will barack obama do to that? that s a good what barack obama will do with that, this is a man without a core, a man without substance, a man that will say anything to become president of the united states. i think that s a great vulnerable. i think newt has his set of vulnerabilities, but a more consistent position with real ideas like ronald reagan had. ronald reagan signed the bill that made abortion legal in the state of california. ronald reagan did, in fact, raise taxes several times not just as president but as governor of california. so i think that newt might, in fact, be in an imperfect world, there may be perfect candidates, and you mentioned some of them, paul ryan jeb bush. man, i d take him in a second. chris christie. and in this imperfect world, and maybe i m also reacting to everybody coming after newt.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111215:12:18:00

mitt s going to be on on monday. can i ask you really quickly could you mention my book? before we go to break. that s why i m here. we ll do that next block. we thought you were here because you loved us. i do love you. it s because we want to williams. really quickly williams has a lot to answer for. i know. as we move away from iraq, what has this decade of war meant? the only thing missing is you could have said rumsfeld for not listening to the generals. as we move out, we re not listening to the generals again. there aren t any generals who say we should do it this way and i fear we re going to lose iraq and it ll be a terrible thing. good warning. bill bennett, thank you very much. also coming up, new york mayor rudy giuliani, he s going to be onset. also, mark penn. you re watching morning joe brewed by starbucks. now, rudy, i want to get rudy talking about newt. let s do it.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111215:11:32:00

let s go down to politico. politico s executive editor jim vandehei. jonathan martin has a piece up for you guys. taking a look at newt gingrich and the way he s running his campaign in iowa. asking the question, is newt taking the hawkeye state seriously enough? reason to believe he s not? you had a real smart observation earlier when you were talking about, did he peak too soon? because suddenly thanks to this surge, you have two different attack ads from a group affiliated with romney against newt. you have a ron paul ad against newt gingrich. you even have another add from another outside group hitting newt gingrich. and he s not doing anything to respond, he s not spending as much time as the others in iowa, and there s certainly concern from conservatives at the grass roots that could affect him come caucus day. and if he doesn t win iowa, that surge would start to deflate pretty quickly. i thought your debate earlier was interesting.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111215:12:24:00

i think it s deeper. i ran against him in 07 and 08, i ve never seen a guy change his positions on so many things so fast on a dime. everything. you re talking about pro-choice. you re talking about gingrich? no, mitt. mitt was the governor no, i m just saying newt has switched pretty quickly on issues, as well. nothing, absolutely nothing like what mitt romney did from governor of massachusetts to candidate for president. pro-choice pro-life, pro-choice because somebody, close friend died and he became pro-choice because this woman died of an abortion. then he figures out there are embryos and changes. he was pro-gun control. fine, then he becomes a lifetime member of the nra. he was pro cap and trade, now he s against cap and trade. he was pro mandate for the whole

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